One Victim's Story, Why Do Some Wish To Ignore It?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6169489/Sarah-repeatedly-raped-twice-forced-marriage-EIGHT-abortions.html

[kvalidir]

Not indirectly either Tora, the most I have heard anyone say is what I've just said and I am most certainly not an apologist for any section of humanity's bad behaviour. I'm the most likely person to figuratively shoot someone in the face you'll probably ever meet.

[naomi24]

14:49, highly misleading.

[jackthehat]

Here comes the dummy-spitting....

[naomi24]

Jackthehat, ^I’m guessing we cross-posted there and that wasn’t for me. You say the Catholic church is complicit, whereas ‘The Muslim groomers will be, quite rightly, regarded as individuals and responsible for their own conduct and answerable to their own God’, when in fact unlike the tenets of Islam, there is nothing within the Catholic creed that supports or excuses such abuse. Islam is without doubt complicit.

[jackthehat]

noami - both you and TGT know exactly what I mean. There is no heirarchy in Islam as there is in the Catholic church. An Imam under suspicion has no 'bishop' over him to shuffle him off to another congregation.

If you want to turn this into another 'the Koran gives permission......thread' go ahead. I am sure TGT and AOG will approve.
I'll be saving my thoughts for the poor victim of this abuse.

[naomi24]

jackthehat, I gleaned from your post that the Catholic church is complicit and Islam is not. Given that Islam condones the unacceptable, that an Iman has no ‘bishop’ to shuffle him off, as you put it, is irrelevant. As for your objection to turning this into ‘another the Koran gives permission’ thread, would you rather that wasn’t exposed?

[jackthehat]

Ho hum......
You misunderstood what I wrote, fair enough.

By all means, highlight the issue of muslim grooming gangs and rapists and Koranic approval......again......if you must.
I'm sure there's perhaps a single ABer lurking in a corner, somewhere, who hasn't read what you have to say on the matter.

[naomi24]

jackthehat, your (and others) continual misrepresentation of the truth (which the majority here have also witnessed consistently) is my encouragement. If you don't like hearing it, acknowledge the facts.

[jackthehat]

I'm not misrepresenting anything, naomi.

I know full-well what Islam represents and I (and possibly those 'others' to whom you refer) really don't need any additional daily/hourly education from you on the topic.

AOG put up a thread about a young woman who has been treated abominably and instead of sympathy for the victim the entire thread has been turned 180 degrees into (yet) another discussion of Islam.

You have made 4 comments on this thread not one of which expresses any sympathy towards the victim......strange.

[naomi24]

Haha! Nice try, jackthehat, but it doesn't work. If I had no sympathy with her I wouldn't be taking the trouble to address your misrepresentation.

[jackthehat]

You've simply chosen not to voice it?

Fair enough....

[naomi24]

No need.

[Spicerack]

Stop digging, jack. You put out some carefully worded misinformation and you were quite rightly taken to task.
And then to suggest we should ignore the underlying reasons for these outrages and just 'light another tea-candle'.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
I know you won't be.

[jackthehat]

LoL, spicerack.... you never fail to amuse.

I admit that I could possibly have worded what I meant a little better but I forgot about those who are literal when they wish to be and not so much when they don't.

I think you'll find all I said was that it is a pity the plight of this poor woman is being used *solely* to hammer Islam....again.

I reserve my sympathy for her, my contempt for the men who abused her (and the women who helped) and Islam; and the rest.......