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Joking aside, will anyone on here give serious consideration to lifestyle choices/changes?
At the risk of sounding ‘holier than thou’ I couldn’t really do any more than I do(from someone who gets spoken to for throwing his banana skins/apple cores out of the window into an enclosed area) but am intrigued as to how many will give serious consideration.
Anyone?
Joking aside, will anyone on here give serious consideration to lifestyle choices/changes?
At the risk of sounding ‘holier than thou’ I couldn’t really do any more than I do(from someone who gets spoken to for throwing his banana skins/apple cores out of the window into an enclosed area) but am intrigued as to how many will give serious consideration.
Anyone?
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We have been on the planet for about two minutes in the grand scheme of things, actually 200,000 years (the Dinosaurs were here for 165 million years) and science has been practised for about two ticks, but our arrogance is such that when we scratch about with our gadgets and inventions anything that is indicated which appears negative always brings the reaction "we did that". The "we" is not new and goes way back - the cleverest people on Earth, who invented mathematics, logarithms, geometry, algebra, astronomy and much else, could calculate the weight of the Earth, the distance to the Moon and other bodies with remarkable accuracy, all agreed on one thing, that we were at the centre of the Universe - and they were wrong.
One of our near neighbours is a giant nuclear furnace of unimaginable temperatures which keeps us at just the right heat, but it's constantly spewing out massive explosions - solar flares up to 350,000 miles high, which some think may affect our weather.
Since the 1950's the UK has done a remarkable job in cleaning up the environment, particularly the rivers and estuaries, to the extent that many places would be unrecognizable to folks from that era. The countryside is probably more beautiful than it's ever been thanks to farmers and Government initiatives, but you won't hear about this or the Solar flare stuff because there's no money in it for the plethora of Quangos and Universities now wading about in our taxes care of Global Warming thank you. They should forget it and apply themselves to cleaning up the plastic from the Oceans.
One of our near neighbours is a giant nuclear furnace of unimaginable temperatures which keeps us at just the right heat, but it's constantly spewing out massive explosions - solar flares up to 350,000 miles high, which some think may affect our weather.
Since the 1950's the UK has done a remarkable job in cleaning up the environment, particularly the rivers and estuaries, to the extent that many places would be unrecognizable to folks from that era. The countryside is probably more beautiful than it's ever been thanks to farmers and Government initiatives, but you won't hear about this or the Solar flare stuff because there's no money in it for the plethora of Quangos and Universities now wading about in our taxes care of Global Warming thank you. They should forget it and apply themselves to cleaning up the plastic from the Oceans.
Even Climate Scientists -- in fact, especially Climate Scientists -- aren't arrogant enough to claim that climate change is solely a human-driven phenomenon. What they *do* say is that it's a strong, and clearly identifiable, signal on top of all of the other contributing factors. Solar flares, changes in orbit, continental shifts -- you name it.
To be blunt, then, Robnorth's post is based on a fallacy.
To be blunt, then, Robnorth's post is based on a fallacy.
Funnily enough the Chinese are also leading the way in certain Green energy investments, so ... it's a bit mixed. I dare say that they are mainly investing in green energy sources for cynical reasons, eg because it looks good on the world stage and so on.
Lately one also has to question the role of the US, which has taken something of a step backwards on Climate Change in the last couple of years. It will be interesting to see how, or indeed if, that attitude changes in light of this report.
Still, clearly TTT is right that the UK's actions will have little impact directly. The important part, though, is to be seen to be doing something, to take a lead. Maybe that will encourage other nations to follow.
Lately one also has to question the role of the US, which has taken something of a step backwards on Climate Change in the last couple of years. It will be interesting to see how, or indeed if, that attitude changes in light of this report.
Still, clearly TTT is right that the UK's actions will have little impact directly. The important part, though, is to be seen to be doing something, to take a lead. Maybe that will encourage other nations to follow.
The reason the USA backed out is because self flagellation costs the economy and jobs. Whilst some in the West are hurting themselves the Indian and Chinese plough ahead with cheap energy and increase their economies at the expense of the hand wringing countries.
Whilst some climate change scientist now do say humans are not entirely to blame this has not really been the case in the past. Encouraged by funding to prove human climate change they spouted all sorts of horror stories, non of which have been proven and many debunked. It's a classic case of crying wolf (If humans do have anything to do with it).
Whilst some climate change scientist now do say humans are not entirely to blame this has not really been the case in the past. Encouraged by funding to prove human climate change they spouted all sorts of horror stories, non of which have been proven and many debunked. It's a classic case of crying wolf (If humans do have anything to do with it).
Do take the time to read this. It is an eye opener.
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