What Has Tommy Been Up To This Time? Daring To Meet Up With Other British Tommy It Seems.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1029408/tommy-robinson-far-right-edl-soldiers-video-army-investigation

/// Imam Asim Hafiz, Islamic religious advisor to the Armed Forces, said that "any form of racism, discrimination or extremism is taken extremely seriously and will be dealt with accordingly". ///

[spathiphyllum]

"I've seen and heard about these attacks on TV"

Exactly? from the media...

I'm living on planet earth, hereiam... In the world where terrorist attacks are actually quite rare

[naomi24]

spath, //Ah so basically.. You're just spouting things that sound like you know what you're talking about...//

That's incorrect. You're at liberty to check out anything I say on the subject.... you too andy-hughes.

[andy-hughes]

// path, //Ah so basically.. You're just spouting things that sound like you know what you're talking about...//

That's incorrect. You're at liberty to check out anything I say on the subject.... you too andy-hughes. //

Trust me spath, you won't win, really, just leave it.

[SparklyKid]

I'm living on planet earth, hereiam... In the world where terrorist attacks are actually quite rare

16:49 Wed 10th Oct 2018

Maybe but totally devastating when they occur. Which is better , a footy match scuffle , or planes flown into buildings, let me think, hard one that.

[naomi24]

Andy-hughes, //Naomi believes that because she says she has studied Islam, it make her view superior to yours, or mine, or anyone else who gainsays her view.//

Facts are superior to falsehoods.

[spathiphyllum]

Fender wrote:

"islam is not a religion, but a political ideology wrapped as a religion
as for the advisor, muslims hate the british armed forces, so we do not have to seek there approval, but political correctness comes first."

Andy said it was not true.

you said andy should take his own advice (implying it is true)

I said i agree'd that it was not true. (with andy)

Now we're here and you're telling me i'm at a liberty to check any info you post? Rightiho

So now i'm going to be at a liberty and double check that

"... as for the advisor, muslims hate the british armed forces, so we do not have to seek there approval, but political correctness comes first."

is true.. How on earth would we know this? Oh yeah.. i'll go to my muslim client, and ask them how they feel about the minestry of defence.. If they say they do not hate them, then andys comment is in fact 100% correct, making your comment moot and pedantic.

If i'm miss understanding what other points we're discussing then please, enlighten me.

[spathiphyllum]

Naomi what facts are you providing though??

[hereIam]

spath what the HELL are you on about?? These attacks happened, nothing to do with the the 'media' !! Have a rest do ... !

I'm beginning to think you just like trying to wind people up ...

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, I don't understand why you're obsessed with winning, but since you are you might have more chance if you take my advice and educate yourself before entering into discussion.

[spathiphyllum]

If anything by being at liberty I've proved my point, not to mention how many muslims are already in the army?

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/muslims-in-the-armed-forces--2

Oh AND how many Muslims fought for our country in ww2

[spathiphyllum]

winning!?!??

It is you who thinks this is a "who has the last word competition".. Andy isn't trying to win anything, he's discussing the topic at hand and applying his opinion, you've not provided facts to research yet you've implied me and andy are at liberty to do so?

Your manor of debate confuses me, and it's more antagonistic, than anywhere progressive.

[naomi24]

spath, andy-hughes brought winning into the conversation. That my manner of debate confuses you comes as no surprise.

[spathiphyllum]

"spath what the HELL are you on about?? These attacks happened, nothing to do with the the 'media' !! Have a rest do ... ! "

I never said they didn't happen. I know they did.. But do they happen every day? Every week? Every month?... No, but 'they' (media) go on about it every day, every week and every month.

I know people who are genuinely scare to go to London in case an underground tube blows up. How you've spoke about being scared of terrorism i'd class you with those people.

You seem a victim of "project fear".

[andy-hughes]

spath - You are plaiting fog, don't waste your energy, you will not win.

Although I am sure, that like me, you don't care about 'winning' when there is nothing to 'win' - except in Naomi's mind.

[naomi24]

spath, your complacency towards Islamic terrorism is an insult to each and every one of the thousands of victims.

[spathiphyllum]

I'm just trying to understand the 'point' Naomi is making.. in reality i think she just wish we silenced our opinions.

[hereIam]

^ Isn't it just ... ?!

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //am sure, that like me, you don't care about 'winning' when there is nothing to 'win' - except in Naomi's mind.//

You brought the concept of winning into the conversation - but don't let that stop you from dragging the conversation down to a personal level again.

[hereIam]

My last comment was to naomi at 17:26 ....

[hereIam]

Oh heck '17:06' ...