So Does Drill Music Actually Promote Violence.?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45824358

\\When police searched his room, they found a sword, knives, four cheap mobile phones, wraps of heroin and crack cocaine and £480 in cash. There was also a Silwood Nation t-shirt.//

\\Drill music often features rappers talking about violence and can be used to fuel rivalries between gangs, leading critics to link it to crime.//

\\Olaloko's family described him as a quiet, studious boy. He auditioned for the X Factor talent show in 2016 but failed to make the TV auditions.

Instead, he focused on drill music, rapping about drugs, money, violence and sex in his videos.//

All I read through the report was, drugs, knives, sex and violence.

[fiction-factory]

Cause and effect are often confused

[fiction-factory]

cum hoc ergo propter hoc

[Peter Pedant]

drill music now I have worked out what it is
[I personally blame the Silcott Nation T-shirt which is the most subversive thing I have ever read] Drill music is the Anglo equiv of the narcocorrida

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcocorrido

oh narcocorrido then - those eespanics in the movies pronounce their words so badly

Former President of Mexico Vicente Fox also proposed banning narcocorridos.[5] On the other hand, former Mexican foreign secretary Jorge Castaneda has argued that "corridos are attempts by Mexican society to come to terms with the world around them...You cannot blame narcocorridos for drug violence. Drug violence is to blame for narcocorridos".[6] (wiggi)

time for my fave from Breaking Bad
The lead singer wants to be mistaken for a Bad Boy
but with his hamster pouches - he looks as tho he has got all the cream buns and not much else

(oh if you thing a narcocorrido in Mehico and the big fella doesnt like, that is a permanent end of your career)

[Peter Pedant]

FF how true how true
and now for a thong in thpanith

[sp1814]

Only as much as the films of Martin Scorsese encourage violence, and RPG games encourage rape.

Reflection/reaction or promoter? I think we should steer clear of blaming musical genre for societal ills.

It's been going on since Elvis started wriggling his hips.

It's as reductive now as it was then.

[Peter Pedant]

blimey you gonna learn alot about thpanith narcocorridos
The Breaking Bad one words written by Gilligan who wrote the tv series. The singers grin at "zee greengo az taken over the mercado" like yeah man. He insisted on making the band more "Mehican" by booting out the oompah man. There should be a sousaphone in the ensemble - three guitars is not suitable apparently
( like the lovable mopheads the beatles recording without Ringo)

you tube - el Nano - another hairy overfed mehican who can sing quite well really

[webbo3]

you haven't answered the question SP.

[Theland]

Black culture.

[sp1814]

webbo3

I really have. But to summarise...no.

Theland - you can't really simply blame black culture when drill is as divisive as grime...and ignoring the fact that R&B (Beyonce, Rihanna, The Weeknd, Bruno Mars, Post Malone and Example) is the biggest and most popular form of 'black culture' currently available.

[Theland]

I do blame black culture. Gangs, drugs, violence etc and all reflected and promoted in their despicable music.
Thank God the majority of black people embrace British culture and the result is we can all be happily colour blind.

[archibaldy]

I once read that John Wayne Gacy who tortured and killed over 30 people liked to listen to Elton John and REO Speedwagon. American 70's pop rock groups can do what they like, but I hope Elton is ashamed of himself.

[sp1814]

Theland

Nonsense.

[sp1814]

I’d go on but won’t because no doubt a member of AB’s idioteratti will cap the conversation off with the old ‘chip on his shoulder’ line.

But really, the idea of British culture is white supremacy by another name.

And that’s simply cobblers.

[Theland]

British culture is white supremacy?
Heard it all now.
What a comment to make in the interests of integration.

[douglas9401]

I did hear that the last refuge of an inadequate debater was the race card.
Tell me I'm well wide of the mark and it's just that Friday feeling.

[jno]

you think this thread isn't about race, douglas? Sweet.

Bagpipes promote violence; I often want to kill the player.

[Theland]

Yes White supremacy is definitely a race card.

[douglas9401]

My my, your chips are showing jno.

[sp1814]

Pathetic.

[sp1814]

Notice how Theland made this about race with the stupid line 'black culture'?

Where are your brains?