Ok How Long Before We Are Allowed To Mention The Elephant In The Room?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45918845

[Theland]

A good Muslim should not beat his wife with a stick thicker than his finger.
Ah bless. All heart. Koran ref.

[Zacs-Master]

All heart, the Bible too:
https://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible7.htm

[Theland]

Zacs - grow up. You are a beneficiary of living in the inheritance of a Judeo Christian culture whether you are a theist or not.
Muslims do this TODAY.
Your infantile nit picking says more about you than the Bible you seek to denigrate or the Muslims you wish to promote.

[Zacs-Master]

Infantile nit picking = ‘oh heck he’s countered my argument and I don’t have an answer so I’ll just criticise’

[tamborine]

See Martin Stone comments below vid: Claire Lilley of NSPCC blames victims of abuse for viewing porn online & media. 12y girl drunk & drugged and 50 men abuse her in one night. This vid is horrific & why TR highlights this abuse.

[anotheoldgit]

It is never a good idea to mix cultures, but when will our politicians be brave enough to admit it, as they were when they finally admitted that mass immigration was a mistake?

[tamborine]

"Youngsters starved of love turn to abusive gangs for affection" say children charities. These charities ignored the abuse but ask for donations - theyre all off my xmas list!

https://tinyurl.com/y7dxchzo

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Andy what is your point? //

My point is the same point I raise with you every time you post your Bible v. Koran nonsense - you can take something and interpret it it suit your own views.

Further up the thread, you quote the Koran adivising the thickness of a stick to beat a man's wife with.

I'll see your wife beating, and raise you a "If thine right eye offend thee, pluck it out …"

and we could go on, but what's the point.

The bottom line is simple -

If you have a faith that offers guidance and / or instruction in a book, then you as a follower will take from that book the parts that help you understand and live your faith, and quietly jettison the rest.

That means there are plenty of good Christian people who go around trying their best to love their neighbours while at the same time managing to avoid tearing out their eyes and cutting off their hands.

All you have to do is extend that simple practical common sense to other faiths, and realise that Muslims don't go around raping children and beating their wives either - they leave that to people who like hurting people, and hide behind their 'faith' so they can actually get out of bed in the morning and look at themselves in the mirror without the urge to destroy themselves that their behaviour and mindset should tell them to.

[anotheoldgit]

andy-hughes

The Bible and the Koran where written many many years ago, Christianity has now mainly joined the 21st century, but the same can't be said for Islam, take a look at the today's Islamic World for the proof.

[ToraToraTora]

have a day off theland, ZM is correct the bible and the koran are more or less the same. you can't find owt in one that isn't in the other. Christianity has been just as bat tish crazy as Islam it's just the that latter is going through it's BSC phase currently. So beware quoting from the koran because the equivalent always exists in your book of fairy tales.