7 More Pakistani Men, Found Guilty Of Child Grooming.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-45980210

It is reported that the seventh man who is guilty of rape cannot be named for legal reasons, any one know how this can be?

[naomi24]

v_e at 16:54, that figures.

[jackthehat]

Excellent news.
That is a further 7 sexual predators removed from the streets; hopefully for a very long time.

[naomi24]

Spath, //This is only "news" worthy to those who are set and comfortable with their perception and ideology of that is and isn't allowed in this county.//

I’m guessing you mean “their perception of what is and isn’t allowed in this country”. Perception is surplus to requirements. This isn’t allowed.

[Spicerack]

Spath seems to think there are plenty of 'white' grooming gangs but the only reason people are interested in these ones is the men's Pakistani/ Muslim heritage.
I've got to tell you honestly Spath, if we ever had 'white' grooming gangs I never heard of them. (no doubt someone will 'dredge' a historical one up.)

[naomi24]

If someone does manage to drag one up, that won’t negate the fact that this is a persistent problem emanating from the Muslim community - and it’s happening time and time again. Ideology or not, there is no acceptable excuse.

[Togo]

Notice how the mainstream news outlets insist on calling it an "Asian" gang? I would imagine that the perfectly respectable people of Hong Kong, Cambodia, China, Georgia, Indonesia, India, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Malaysia, Mongolia, Nepal, Philippines, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Thailand, Tibet, Vietnam and many more Asian peoples must be pretty dismayed by being lumped together by a group that comes from "You know where", and are followers of "You know who".

[-Talbot-]

100 different Asian men.

This is one of 22 ongoing cases...it's not going away.

[Mamyalynne]

Thank you for that clarification, so hopefully more convictions on the way.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // Ideology or not, there is no acceptable excuse. //

Do you seriously think anyone is looking for one?

[douglas9401]

"This is only "news" worthy to those who are set and comfortable with their perception and ideology of that is and isn't allowed in this county"

So, yes.

[andy-hughes]

// "This is only "news" worthy to those who are set and comfortable with their perception and ideology of that is and isn't allowed in this county" //

No one could seriously argue that the conviction of these vile individuals is anything other than seriously good news.

But the point that the media highlights Asian grooming gangs is a valid one.

There is a climate of suspicion and fear around communities comprised of people who have roots outside Europe, and this is perpetuated and stoked by the media and this is another example.

Fear sells newspapers, that is a sad, but true fact.

[douglas9401]

But me no buts Mr Hughes, get off the fence before you get skelfs in your bahookie.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Notice how the mainstream news outlets insist on calling it an "Asian" gang? I would imagine that the perfectly respectable people ...must be pretty dismayed byb eing lumped together by a group that comes from "You know where", and are followers of "You know who"//

The Sikhs (whose young girls were the first known victims of the Muslim gangs) have been "dismayed" about this for a very long time, Togo:

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/we-the-undersigned-demand-that-politicians

[vetuste_ennemi]

They were complaining about it long before 2013 too.

[Ric.ror]

All seven apparently pleaded not guilty so what was their defence?
That the girls were willing?
Also the men were allowed out on bail!!!!

[Mamyalynne]

This report says they are in custody awaiting sentence.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rotherham-grooming-ring-latest-sex-exploitation-teenage-girls-stovewood-a8606826.html

[New Judge]

“Also the men were allowed out on bail!!!!”

For that you must blame the Bail Act of 1976. The Act provides a statutory presumption in favour of allowing bail without conditions unless one or more of the exceptions mentioned in the Act applies The exceptions are where it can be shown that there is a likelihood of one or more of the following:

- That they will fail to surrender to custody (i.e. not turn up next time)

- That they will commit further offences

- That they will interfere with the course of justice (in particular, attempt to influence witnesses).

To show that there is a likelihood of one or more of the above occurring there has to be evidence (usually in the form that the individual has been involved in breaking bail previously). Just “having a hunch” or “nor liking the cut of his jib” will not do. There are some further provisions when an offence of murder is alleged which restricts the general rights above. There are also restrictions to the right to bail where allegations of serious sexual offences are concerned but only when the defendant has a previous conviction for such an offence.