Grenfell Tower Bonfire Effigy

[cassa333]

Just read in the paper that the police have raided the home of two of the men (father and son) arrested in connection with the bonfire burning of the Grenfell Tower effigy.

Why?

The men for the most part went voluntarily to the police station and one can but assume at this stage have admitted to doing it. So what are the police looking for? The evidence is a pile of ashes in the garden. Are they looking for nursery style scissors and sticky tape?

What they did was in very poor taste and crass beyond belief and people are rightly outraged but I do think this is overkill.

[andy-hughes]

spath - // They obviously committed a crime, because well.. they got arrested didn't they.. //

As I understand it, the parties involved handed themselves in voluntarily to the local police station, and have not to date been arrested or charged.

[Spicerack]

Trying to find evidence of a crime they can pin on them?

[spathiphyllum]

AH i heard something about two of them being arrested late last night? I shall try to find the source, unless someone has it to hand?

[douglas9401]

File the story under "something must be done".

[andy-hughes]

Spath - // AH i heard something about two of them being arrested late last night? I shall try to find the source, unless someone has it to hand? //

You may be right, I am not bang up to date on the news on this nonsense.

As I have said, it is unlikely that they will be charged - I don't believe the law caters to rank stupidity, but they will certainly have paid, and will continue to pay, a debt to society by being named and shamed for their pointless behaviour.

[retrocop]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/grenfell-tower-bonfire-effigy-video-fire-burning-guy-fawkes-november-5-a8619491.html
Suspects are normally arrested at the station if they are to be kept in custody pending further investigation.

[Togo]

//Know who they are - hunt them down, charge them? (That's Togo - don't like that, mate) //

Anybody???

[spathiphyllum]

Danny, the article i provided at 8:09 provides answers from actual victims to your question at 8:13


"One Grenfell survivor told us, “It was very upsetting seeing the model going up in flames online. But not as upsetting as it was on the night and definitely not as upsetting as it is that I’m still homeless almost 18 months later and the people who clad my flat are still living in their homes. That’s probably more upsetting.”"

[Togo]

Still no answer regarding the garbled post at 9.32?


//Know who they are - hunt them down, charge them? (That's Togo - don't like that, mate) //

[retrocop]

Togo
Appears something has been attributed to you which you didn't write.

[Peter Pedant]

all sorts of crimes can be committed in private....

the public order offence needs an intention to harass and all they need say is there wasnt one

as for putting on the internet - I think someone else did that didnt they

was it here that someone said
More people have been arrested over the cardboard tower
than have been for the real thing - which remains at zero...

[Peter Pedant]

// and have not to date been arrested or charged.//

yeah arrested and kept in overnight....
you dont think being kept in overnight was on invitation do you?

[Togo]

Do you have a time for your comparative post Pe Pe Le Phew?? :))

[naomi24]

Togo, if you didn't write it and it's not a v_e original at 9.32, ask v_e where he copied it from. Hopefully that will solve the mystery

[Togo]

Have no idea what it is about Naomi. I hadn't even contributed to the thread. Then pp plucks something that I did say out of a much longer post, and totally different thread about something else, in an attempt to "explain" it. Of course v e has gone to ground now. I must be living in his head rent free. :))

[naomi24]

Togo, I often get the impression that I'm living in some people's heads rent-free too. I've decided to put it down to popularity. Once met, never forgotten. ;o)

[Canary42]

No arrests yet over putting up inflammable cladding on the cheap.

Disgraceful.

[Togo]

Haha Naomi...… does that make us squatters? (^_*)

[naomi24]

Haha! I don't think so, Togo. Squatters move in voluntarily. ;o)

[Peter Pedant]

yup you heard it first from me - see above
and in the times today

Effigies and Effix - to the editor of the Times

In Lewes, police stood by whilst effigies of living politicans were burnt. In London the Metropolitan Police arrested some idiots for burning a model of Grenfell Tower. We seem to have lost our ability to distinguish legality and good taste – from James Hall Isle of Lewis