Is May's Deal Better Than A No Deal Exit?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1045522/brexit-deal-explained-theresa-may-eu-brexit-news-b

[spathiphyllum]

No, not for some.

Yes, yes for some.

[dannyk13]

No.

[spathiphyllum]

Hold up danny. if you wanted to leave the EU, then it's fine, surely?

You can't tell me you voted leave with any agenda apart from leaving the EU? if so, you were sold misinformation

[anotheoldgit]

spathiphyllum

Well that is perfectly obvious, can't you be more specific?

[ToraToraTora]

No, in fact it's also worse than remaining.

[spathiphyllum]

"can't you be more specific? "

Why all the information now?? Did you not know.. Brexit meant brexit? And brexit is brexiting... So for those who wanted to leave, which was the only fact and main point in the debate, they've got what they wanted.

All the remain voters voted remain because there was no info so i dano how all these leave voters had info and expectations. The cabinate didn't have a clue let alone us commoners.

[dannyk13]

Spath, read the OP. What I said was leaving with no deal is better than leaving with May's Chequers plan.

[spathiphyllum]

at the end of the day, we're leaving. And as i said, you can't seriously of had solid expectations of how we'd leave or the consequences cus no one had a clue it was all hypothetical.

[spathiphyllum]

If you voted leave you can't moan at all, or complain, or winge. You've got what you ask'd for it's that simple.

[dannyk13]

Spath. Who is moaning?

[anotheoldgit]

What's not to like?

1/ Ending free movement and introducing our new skills-based immigration system.
2/ Visa-free travel for tourism and temporary business activity, to ensure businesses can continue to provide services and move their talented people.
3/ A free trade area and deep cooperation on goods, with zero tariffs and quotas.
4/ The ability of the UK to strike trade deals around the world.
5/ The UK will be an independent coastal state, with commitments to ensure sustainable fishing levels and a new fisheries agreement with the EU.
6/ The UK will be outside the EU’s Common Agricultural Policy.
7/ Comprehensive and close reciprocal law enforcement and judicial cooperation to keep people safe.
8/ A close and flexible partnership, including UK participation in EU missions and capability projects on a case by case basis; and consultation on sanctions; supported by the timely exchange of information and intelligence.
9/ UK Sovereignty of Gibraltar and Sovereign Base Areas in Cyprus confirmed in the Withdrawal Agreement.
10/ Rights of more than three million EU citizens living in the UK and around one million UK nationals living in the EU protected

[spathiphyllum]

"Who is moaning?"


There are a LOT of people who are not happy.

[jim360]

Yes, but nowhere near as good as remaining.

[spathiphyllum]

Danny those who have left her cabinet are pretty much moaning.

It is a *** show and no one can deny.

Who will leave her side next?

[spathiphyllum]

People who drafted this deal and who seemingly wanted it have even left lol

[spathiphyllum]

They may as well call them the conservatory's cus they're so delicate, and they need to stop throwing stones lol

[diddlydo]

Are the Brexiters so dim that they can't even appreciate the disastrous effect that leaving the EU will have on the economy, not to mention 10+ years pf uncertainty while things are re-negotiated?

[Old_Geezer]

Are bears Catholic ?
Does the Pope defecate in the woods ?

[Old_Geezer]

Are the Remoaners so dim that they can't even appreciate the limited term effect that leaving the EU will have on the economy, is a small price to pay for a return of sovereignty and getting out from the control of an unelected elite ?

There FTFY.

By the way, to state the blatantly obvious, May's plan isn't leaving, it's getting the UK more embroiled.

[naomi24]

I agree with OG. May's plan isn't leaving and, no, it isn't better than a No Deal exit. Leavers voted to leave - not to beg a few crumbs in order to be allowed to stick around with a toe in the door.