Could We Sue David Cameron?

[bainbrig]

Cameron and his ‘advisors’ (talk about the Unready) decided to have referendum on EU membership.

The UK and Europe are now in a dreadful mess, which has cost billions, for what?

Has there been a worst decision in the world’s history?

I really can’t think of one.

Can we sue Cameron? (I bet he doesn’t sleep well!)

[dannyk13]

What on earth can you sue him for?

[Tilly2]

On the contrary, I bet he sleeps like a baby.

[Old_Geezer]

Of course not. The referendum was the correct decision, the choice was made. Any mess is mainly down to a) some not getting behind the decision once made, b) a PM who messed up a GE and so-called EU negotiations yet is insisting her pile of guano is best, and c) an EU elite and their team determined to give next to nothing even if it hurt their remaining members, as they need to discourage anyone else leaving their fiefdom, and want vengence on those courageous enough to go.

He should sleep ok, unless it troubles him that he opted not to remain in charge but handed the party leadership over to a different remainer.

[gulliver1]

At the same time, sue his Partner in crime Farage , two of the greatest Con men ever.

[Tilly2]

Just found this. It makes interesting reading.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38653681

[Tilly2]

Oops, did I just post a link to my BBC account?

[jno]

Tilly, no

[Tilly2]

If so, could some kind Mod delete it please?

[jno]

invading Russia/Soviet Union worked out considerably worse

[Tilly2]

Phew, thanks, Jno.

[Jackdaw33]

Cameron called the referendum as he was running scared of losing votes to UKIP. As OG states he was right to do so and the consequent mess is not of his making.

[spathiphyllum]

I clearl remember Cameron not wanting brexit.

[jim360]

In as much as this mess really is "not of his making", that's only because he ran away from the fallout of his decision, like a complete coward.

[Khandro]

//Has there been a worst decision in the world’s history? //

Yes, the signing-up by Edward heath to the EC in the first place, the validity of which is questionable even now as many constitutional experts believe that Britain isn't actually a member of the European Union since our apparent entry was in violation of British law and was, therefore invalid.

'In enacting the European Communities Bill through an ordinary vote in the House of Commons, Ted Heath's Government breached the constitutional convention which requires a prior consultation of the people (either by a general election or a referendum) on any measure involving constitutional change. The general election or referendum must take place before any related parliamentary debate. (Britain has no straightforward written constitution. But, the signing of the Common Market entrance documents was, without a doubt, a breach of the spirit of our constitution.)'

[bainbrig]

But what a STUPID decision.

We all know what would happen if you had a referendum on

Hanging

or

Immigration

or

Benefits 'cheats'

We have a parliament of (reasonably) normal people to make decisions on our behalf.

Why involve the barmy British public?

BB

[jim360]

Here's an alternative suggestion why the referendum was, if not a bad thing to hold per se (I supported it at the time), then held in bad faith and terribly-managed:

Would it not have been better if the referendum were only held by a government who was actually prepared, properly, for either outcome, rather than one that was trying to kill the issue dead for another generation?

The mess we are in now is because the people who offered the referendum had no interest in leaving, and there weren't any other politicians with a coherent and realistic plan to implement the result once it happened. In that sense, it *is* a disaster, no matter what side of the Brexit fence you sit.

[Khandro]

It was a bit like playing Real Madrid and having a Spanish referee and linesmen.

[Old_Geezer]

Because you can't filter the barmy minority out, and the rest are the people of this country who should be making the democratic decisions for the nation, even if the uncontroversial daily grind stuff is delegated to their representatives.

[naomi24]

//We have a parliament of (reasonably) normal people to make decisions on our behalf.

Why involve the barmy British public? //

Before they become MPs, MPs are members of the barmy British public. Becoming an MP doesn't automatically make them smarter than anyone else. Check out Diane Abbott's track record.

Suing David Cameron is a ridiculous suggestion.

[Old_Geezer]

No. Because much would be speculation and in a dynamic situation one has to react to changing circumstances. No one would agree on what the actual consequences would be and fantastic scenario stories would simply circulate. One was perfectly reasonable to opt to find out what the goal was first, then plan for what little could be forecast with confidence for the immediate future, and start the process.