As Usual The Eu Are Playing

[cassa333]

Hard ball.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46560807

They will perhaps give a few ‘assurances’ but they mean nothing if not done with legal clauses.

So what next?

Remainers would prefer no Brexit. (Against the democratic result of the referendum)

Failing that the softest of soft Brexits. (Hog tie us and stopping our ability to be competitive and get trade deals of our own without representation. Taxation without representation)

Leavers would on the hole, I think, prefer no deal and just leave. (Carrying out the democratic result of the referendum)

MPs won’t countenance no deal so we are left with delay or suspend A50 indefinitely, go against the democratic vote to rescind A50 or another referendum.

By the time the government decides what to do will there be time to do anything else other than leave?

I hope they procrastinate and twiddle their thumbs long enough to run out of time. However I think there are enough people that don’t believe in the ability of the UK that they will get all the paperwork done so that it (whichever democracy crushing route they take) it can be rushed through last second.

[New Judge]

"It's (at best) highly ambiguous whether or not 'Leave' meant 'WTO terms immediately.' "

I disagree. It was made quite clear to the electorate during the referendum campaign that leaving meant leaving the Single Market and leaving the Customs Union. Since it was fairly obvious that the EU will not countenance a "deal" without some form of coercion that means the UK must stay aligned with one, the other or both then leaving on WTO terms was (and is) the only practical to "leave" in any sense of the word.

[ToraToraTora]

yep, I 'd always hoped we'd have cancelled the DD and been gone on 24th June 2016. I'd never expected anything other that WTO trade rules initially. All the BS since is because we have vegans organising a BBQ.

[cassa333]

I swrioualy considered giving TTT @ 17:22 BA it just about sums it up lol

[cassa333]

Oh for goodness sake auto correct is annouying but witch it off and my fat fi gets on tiny keys just prints gobldygook

[Kromovaracun]

Perhaps you didn't, 3T. But the simple fact is that some Leave voters did. 'Leave' meant different things to different people and obstinately refusing to acknowledge that will not make it less true. Even if you discard the multiple campaigns making multiple promises about leaving, you only need to speak to enough Leave voters (from different age groups and different areas of the country) for this to become extremely obvious.