Cracking Speech From J.r-M

[Khandro]

As someone, (W.C. actually) once said in another context, " it makes you feel proud to be an Englishman', don't you think?

[cassa333]

And oh the irony. How many times have we heard from remainextremists telling brexiteers why they voted leave? Almost without exception remainextremists grandly tell you you only voted leave because you were lied to, or the bus lied, or you are racist, or little engladers, or uneducated or didn’t/don’t understand. Now Krom uses the term ‘what you think remainers think’ as if it’s somehow different lol

[cassa333]

krom, it’s not Cassandra. Unless of course that was auto correct. It does do that sometimes.

I am using the type of language used by remainextremists. When Brexteemist isn’t used anymore I won’t use Remainextremists.

[Zacs-Master]

Again, why are you labelling all remain voters are ‘remainextremist’? It’s a meaningless and inaccurate phrase designed to goad people. You can’t try to make valid points and call people such things as it immediately undermines any point you’re trying to make.

[Kromovaracun]

I think you've got a bit of a cartoonish image in your head of what Remainers actually think, cassa. You can't complain about 'animosity' (your word) and then fulminate about how stupid and ignorant your opponents are.

[andres]

Good speech in plain simple terms. No high falutin language.I liked his summary when he said that being a member in the EU was like being in a family but always having to obtain permission from family members before you could do anything.

[ichkeria]

I couldn’t bear to listen to the whole thing. It’s airy fairy as I said earlier jingoistic claptrap. Existing in its own bubble. Not helped by the sight of Farage, Hoey and Wilson in the background.

[youngmafbog]

It's a good speech but he is not PM material and should remain on the backbaenches, as COB should have done.

"I couldn’t bear to listen to the whole thing"

Well of course not. As a person who has, judging from your comments, commie tendencies with a chip on his shoulder I should imagine the man really grates with you.

[Kromovaracun]

"commie tendencies"?!

Bloody hell. You people really need to get out more.

[Khandro]

ichi; //I couldn’t bear to listen to the whole thing. //

Then your comments are valueless.

[Kromovaracun]

Incidentally, if anyone fancies a more measured and (imo) honest take on the issue, this lecture by Ivan Rogers is very much worth your time:

https://news.liverpool.ac.uk/2018/12/13/full-speech-sir-ivan-rogers-on-brexit/

[ichkeria]

JRM memorably referred to by Andrew Rawnsley as the man who put the ass into assassin ;-)

Khandro my comments are not valueless: I heard enough from him both here and elsewhere to know precisely where he’s coming from: if not the Planet Zog then certainly the Planet Mog