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Even if agent COB gets into no 10, Brexit goes ahead.
Even if agent COB gets into no 10, Brexit goes ahead.
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“Jeremy Corbyn has defiantly restated Labour’s policy of leading Britain out of the European Union…” Where’s the headline then? Mr Corbyn’s Party supported the granting of a referendum, most of his MP’s voted to trigger A50 and his party secured their seats at the last General Election on a manifesto that committed the Party to take the UK...
13:53 Sat 22nd Dec 2018
How would be easy if the remainers stopped trying to get their way.
A deal is not necessary, Governments can do what they want but business will work regardless.
We have large communities here in the UK with ties back to other countries. Many of the people in these communities are British business folk who I am sure will be chomping at the bit.
All Government has to do is make the call. Leave - no deal. Businesses do your thing.
A deal is not necessary, Governments can do what they want but business will work regardless.
We have large communities here in the UK with ties back to other countries. Many of the people in these communities are British business folk who I am sure will be chomping at the bit.
All Government has to do is make the call. Leave - no deal. Businesses do your thing.
“Jeremy Corbyn has defiantly restated Labour’s policy of leading Britain out of the European Union…”
Where’s the headline then? Mr Corbyn’s Party supported the granting of a referendum, most of his MP’s voted to trigger A50 and his party secured their seats at the last General Election on a manifesto that committed the Party to take the UK out of the EU. The only thing that has changed since then is that the EU has insisted on the only amicable leaving arrangement being one which leaves the UK tied to the most significant of the EU’s institutions possibly in perpetuity. This, for anyone with any integrity or intention of honouring the referendum result, is entirely unacceptable and is no reason whatsoever to consider a change of policy.
“Define 'Brexit'”
The UK leaving the EU and all its institutions. It requires, as a minimum, four things:
- The cessation of payments to the EU in return for the ability to trade.
- The ending of the ECJ having any say in judicial decisions within the UK.
- The ending of the embargo on the UK conducting its own trade and customs negotiations.
- The return to the control of the UK Parliament the nation’s immigration policy.
If any of those four things are not secured then Brexit has not been properly achieved. Nobody who voted to leave was (or should have been) under any illusion about that because it was made abundantly clear before the referendum.
The following issues were considered by the electorate before they voted, but are worth a comment nonetheless:
“Virtually every law made in Brussels must be approved by two sets of democratically-elected politicians: the Council of the European Union, which is made up of government ministers from each member state, and the European Parliament, every member of which has been elected.”
Perfectly true. But those two bodies do not have the power to initiate or revise legislation. They can only accept or reject what is on offer or suggest revisions. Rather like the House of Lords which you agree, on its own (which it is not) would be an “…arrangement [which] would be regarded as profoundly undemocratic. EU Legislation can only be proposed and amended by unelected Commissioners.
“On 27 June 2014, the European Council officially nominated Juncker for the position, and on 15 July 2014, the European Parliament elected him with a majority of 422 votes from a total of 729 cast.”
And what would have happened had they rejected him, do you think? Could they have proposed a candidate of their own choosing?
Where’s the headline then? Mr Corbyn’s Party supported the granting of a referendum, most of his MP’s voted to trigger A50 and his party secured their seats at the last General Election on a manifesto that committed the Party to take the UK out of the EU. The only thing that has changed since then is that the EU has insisted on the only amicable leaving arrangement being one which leaves the UK tied to the most significant of the EU’s institutions possibly in perpetuity. This, for anyone with any integrity or intention of honouring the referendum result, is entirely unacceptable and is no reason whatsoever to consider a change of policy.
“Define 'Brexit'”
The UK leaving the EU and all its institutions. It requires, as a minimum, four things:
- The cessation of payments to the EU in return for the ability to trade.
- The ending of the ECJ having any say in judicial decisions within the UK.
- The ending of the embargo on the UK conducting its own trade and customs negotiations.
- The return to the control of the UK Parliament the nation’s immigration policy.
If any of those four things are not secured then Brexit has not been properly achieved. Nobody who voted to leave was (or should have been) under any illusion about that because it was made abundantly clear before the referendum.
The following issues were considered by the electorate before they voted, but are worth a comment nonetheless:
“Virtually every law made in Brussels must be approved by two sets of democratically-elected politicians: the Council of the European Union, which is made up of government ministers from each member state, and the European Parliament, every member of which has been elected.”
Perfectly true. But those two bodies do not have the power to initiate or revise legislation. They can only accept or reject what is on offer or suggest revisions. Rather like the House of Lords which you agree, on its own (which it is not) would be an “…arrangement [which] would be regarded as profoundly undemocratic. EU Legislation can only be proposed and amended by unelected Commissioners.
“On 27 June 2014, the European Council officially nominated Juncker for the position, and on 15 July 2014, the European Parliament elected him with a majority of 422 votes from a total of 729 cast.”
And what would have happened had they rejected him, do you think? Could they have proposed a candidate of their own choosing?
More forensic detail from Judge.
Meanwhile, in the rapidly approaching real world that is "no deal on those outrageous terms".
""The governments of France, Belgium, and the Netherlands have already made preparations for Britain leaving the EU without a deal, with the European Commission relenting on their hard line by making concessions on freight, flights, and some financial services.
French authorities have confirmed plans to minimise disruption for the cross-border transport of goods, including a Fastpass system for lorries travelling from Calais to the United Kingdom where hauliers can complete customs paperwork online before reaching the port, and licence plate reading cameras to help limit delays, according to The Times. The Belgian and Dutch governments have also announced that their ports are ready for Britain to leave the European Union without a deal, with the Netherlands having hired an additional 1,000 staff in preparation to run customs checks on 10,500 “foreign” ship cargoes going to or from British ports.
Both countries are appealing to the EU to make “No Deal” Brexit shipping easier, complaining France’s Le Touquet agreement gives France an unfair advantage, where goods only need to be checked once rather than twice as in the lowland countries.""
And...
""The Chairman of JCB, one of Britain’s biggest manufacturers and exporters, has said there is “nothing to fear” from making a clean break with the EU in a so-called “No Deal” Brexit.
Writing to the Telegraph newspaper, company chairman Lord Anthony Bamford said that as the head of Britain’s “largest manufacturer of construction equipment”, with “decades of experience selling British-made equipment to WTO and EU countries”, he felt “compelled to say this about a no-deal Brexit: there is nothing to fear from trading under World Trade Organization (WTO) terms.”
EU loyalists in the United Kingdom have argued that “No Deal” would such a disaster for the British economy — with the country supposedly risking shortages of drinking water, medicine, pre-made sandwiches, and Mars bars, among other things — that it should be taken off the table entirely, and the public forced to vote again on whether or not to stay in the EU if Theresa May’s “worst deal in history” is not ratified by Parliament. But Lord Bamford is evidently unimpressed by the claims, explaining: “Nearly three-quarters of what we manufacture in the UK is exported. Likewise, my company buys components from all over the world. Trading with Australia on WTO terms is as natural to us trading with Austria on [EU] terms.”
He added: “40 percent of JCB’s exports go to WTO countries, 27 percent go to EU countries. We import components worth over £250 million from WTO countries. This two-way trading arrangement happens every day as a matter of routine for JCB. It can work just as well for other British businesses.”"
Meanwhile, in the rapidly approaching real world that is "no deal on those outrageous terms".
""The governments of France, Belgium, and the Netherlands have already made preparations for Britain leaving the EU without a deal, with the European Commission relenting on their hard line by making concessions on freight, flights, and some financial services.
French authorities have confirmed plans to minimise disruption for the cross-border transport of goods, including a Fastpass system for lorries travelling from Calais to the United Kingdom where hauliers can complete customs paperwork online before reaching the port, and licence plate reading cameras to help limit delays, according to The Times. The Belgian and Dutch governments have also announced that their ports are ready for Britain to leave the European Union without a deal, with the Netherlands having hired an additional 1,000 staff in preparation to run customs checks on 10,500 “foreign” ship cargoes going to or from British ports.
Both countries are appealing to the EU to make “No Deal” Brexit shipping easier, complaining France’s Le Touquet agreement gives France an unfair advantage, where goods only need to be checked once rather than twice as in the lowland countries.""
And...
""The Chairman of JCB, one of Britain’s biggest manufacturers and exporters, has said there is “nothing to fear” from making a clean break with the EU in a so-called “No Deal” Brexit.
Writing to the Telegraph newspaper, company chairman Lord Anthony Bamford said that as the head of Britain’s “largest manufacturer of construction equipment”, with “decades of experience selling British-made equipment to WTO and EU countries”, he felt “compelled to say this about a no-deal Brexit: there is nothing to fear from trading under World Trade Organization (WTO) terms.”
EU loyalists in the United Kingdom have argued that “No Deal” would such a disaster for the British economy — with the country supposedly risking shortages of drinking water, medicine, pre-made sandwiches, and Mars bars, among other things — that it should be taken off the table entirely, and the public forced to vote again on whether or not to stay in the EU if Theresa May’s “worst deal in history” is not ratified by Parliament. But Lord Bamford is evidently unimpressed by the claims, explaining: “Nearly three-quarters of what we manufacture in the UK is exported. Likewise, my company buys components from all over the world. Trading with Australia on WTO terms is as natural to us trading with Austria on [EU] terms.”
He added: “40 percent of JCB’s exports go to WTO countries, 27 percent go to EU countries. We import components worth over £250 million from WTO countries. This two-way trading arrangement happens every day as a matter of routine for JCB. It can work just as well for other British businesses.”"
For those "terrified" of "No Deal, below is a copy of a recent letter to the Torygraph from Lord Bamford, Chairman on JCB. As you will see from what he writes, Lord Bamford probably knows a thing or two about trading globally (both within and outside the EU):
"JCB is the UK’s largest manufacturer of construction equipment. I have worked in the family business since the Sixties, taking over from my father as chairman in 1975, the year of the first referendum on our membership of what was then called the Common Market.
As the clock ticks down to our exit from the European Union, following the second referendum in 2016, I feel compelled to say this about a no-deal Brexit: there is nothing to fear from trading on World Trading Organisation (WTO) terms.
I have decades of experience selling British-made machinery to WTO and EU countries. Nearly three-quarters of what we manufacture in the UK is exported. Likewise my company buys components from all over the world. Trading with Australia on WTO terms is as natural to us as trading with Austria on EU single-market terms.
To underline the point, 40 per cent of JCB’s exports go to WTO countries, 27 per cent to EU countries. We import components worth over £250 million from WTO countries.
This two-way trading arrangement happens every day as a matter of routine for JCB. It can work just as well for other British businesses.
I accept that, after March 29 next year, any changeover to trading on WTO terms will prove somewhat disruptive to business. My message is simple: business will adapt. It will not be the end of the world.
Ports will also adapt to change in the regulatory landscape and , besides, Dover is not the only UK port. There are about 120 other commercial cargo ports. These will take up the slack if Dover can’t handle everything.
Lord Bamford
Chairman, JCB
Rocester, Staffordshire.
"JCB is the UK’s largest manufacturer of construction equipment. I have worked in the family business since the Sixties, taking over from my father as chairman in 1975, the year of the first referendum on our membership of what was then called the Common Market.
As the clock ticks down to our exit from the European Union, following the second referendum in 2016, I feel compelled to say this about a no-deal Brexit: there is nothing to fear from trading on World Trading Organisation (WTO) terms.
I have decades of experience selling British-made machinery to WTO and EU countries. Nearly three-quarters of what we manufacture in the UK is exported. Likewise my company buys components from all over the world. Trading with Australia on WTO terms is as natural to us as trading with Austria on EU single-market terms.
To underline the point, 40 per cent of JCB’s exports go to WTO countries, 27 per cent to EU countries. We import components worth over £250 million from WTO countries.
This two-way trading arrangement happens every day as a matter of routine for JCB. It can work just as well for other British businesses.
I accept that, after March 29 next year, any changeover to trading on WTO terms will prove somewhat disruptive to business. My message is simple: business will adapt. It will not be the end of the world.
Ports will also adapt to change in the regulatory landscape and , besides, Dover is not the only UK port. There are about 120 other commercial cargo ports. These will take up the slack if Dover can’t handle everything.
Lord Bamford
Chairman, JCB
Rocester, Staffordshire.
NJ
The problem remains that’s is only one interpretation of ‘leave’, with no mention of what to do about the Irish border.
All leavers do not agree with those four proposals.
In fact, they weren’t even given the option on the referendum form. That means all leavers have had to make up where they stand subsequently.
And this still doesn’t answer the question as to who or what ‘Spanner Booby’ is.
The problem remains that’s is only one interpretation of ‘leave’, with no mention of what to do about the Irish border.
All leavers do not agree with those four proposals.
In fact, they weren’t even given the option on the referendum form. That means all leavers have had to make up where they stand subsequently.
And this still doesn’t answer the question as to who or what ‘Spanner Booby’ is.
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