Higher, Lower Or Status Quo?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46737013
I think Higher.

[kvalidir]

No Danny the Pie chart not the bar graph ( and yes Prudie acknowledged). x

[ummmm]

I'm not picking a side but I do find it insulting that someone can suggest that because I don't have a degree that I should be able to vote.

[ummmm]

*shouldn't

Jeez

[dannyk13]

Yes a person's risk of not suffering from.

[jno]

same age at which you are allowed to join the forces or pay tax. If you can be liable to finance the state, or die for it, you should be able to vote for the people who run it.

[youngmafbog]

But only if you are joined up or paying tax, not those being indoctrinated by our left wing universities.

[dannyk13]

At risk of 1 in 14, actually suffering from 2 in 100.

[jno]

how about those at rightwing universities?

[mushroom25]

//If you can be liable to finance the state, or die for it,//

but you can't die for the state at 16.....
https://www.parliament.uk/documents/joint-committees/human-rights/Briefing_from_Forces_Watch_age_of_recruitment.pdf

[dannyk13]

jno// how about those at rightwing universities?//
Is there such a thing?

[woofgang]

so child actors and models who are liable for tax on their salaries should be able to vote?

[spathiphyllum]

Surely 2 in 100 is 1 in 50

[cassa333]

18 is just fine.

Young people think they know everything when they’ve done nothing.

[naomi24]

Claiming young people who pay tax should have a vote doesn’t really wash. The older generation, in general, left school at 14 or 15, and later at 16. Few had the opportunity to go to university so they went to work. Young people who pay tax are doing nothing their elders haven’t done – only they did it for longer because in their day people weren’t given the vote until they were 21.

[ummmm]

Cassa - you don't know what young people have had to endure! Some are wiser than their years.

[New Judge]

//If you can be liable to finance the state, or die for it,//

but you can't die for the state at 16.....

Nor, in most circumstances - certainly in England - can you finance it to any significant degree. Beyond 16, young people must do one of the following:

You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:

- stay in full-time education, for example at a college
- start an apprenticeship or traineeship
- spend 20 hours or more a week working or volunteering, while in part-time education or training

It intrigues me that in many ways, people under 18 are still considered immature. They cannot get married unless they have parental consent; they cannot work as an adult can; they cannot buy alcohol or tobacco; they receive protected status is appearing in a criminal court. Most of these restrictions are in place for good reason - mainly that young people do not have sufficiently developed decision-making capabilities to ensure they can cope in such situations. Yet it is suggested that they should be able to vote.
I find it very odd.

[ummmm]

Staying in education until 18 is a relatively a new thing.

[mushroom25]

just wondering what "safe space" arrangements will be provided at polling stations when 16y-o voters are confronted with ballot papers that contain the names of political parties whose views they don't share?

[ummmm]

What?

[kvalidir]

Dunno but some of the old 'snowflakes' on here have certainly been triggered about young people having the temerity to want to vote ;-)