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All Adults Will Be Presumed To Be Organ Donors …
…..unless they explicitly opt out.
//An opt-out system for organ donation will soon become law after it passed its last hurdle in Parliament.
Campaigners hope the new system will encourage us to make our wishes known before we die, with an online register for those opting out.
Research has shown more than 80 per cent of adults in England would definitely donate their organs or would consider doing so. However, only 37 per cent of Britons have registered as donors on the NHS Organ Donor Register and received a donor card.
However, Professor Chris Rudge, a leading transplant surgeon, has said he would opt out on the grounds that the State should not presume to take a citizen’s organs. Last year he said: ‘Organ donation should be a present … I am so horribly opposed to a change in the law.’//
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Your thoughts?. For or against?
//An opt-out system for organ donation will soon become law after it passed its last hurdle in Parliament.
Campaigners hope the new system will encourage us to make our wishes known before we die, with an online register for those opting out.
Research has shown more than 80 per cent of adults in England would definitely donate their organs or would consider doing so. However, only 37 per cent of Britons have registered as donors on the NHS Organ Donor Register and received a donor card.
However, Professor Chris Rudge, a leading transplant surgeon, has said he would opt out on the grounds that the State should not presume to take a citizen’s organs. Last year he said: ‘Organ donation should be a present … I am so horribly opposed to a change in the law.’//
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Your thoughts?. For or against?
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If nothing else this thread shows that there's no limit to the insane flights of fancy embarked on by some.
10:40 Sat 02nd Feb 2019
// will people who opt out be eligible for an organ transplant? //
jesus I think you opt back in when you get ill
will people who HAVE opted out at one time - ?
they will say that was then and this is now
there would be a larg-ish set not eligible or suitable - Hep B and Ca spring to mind - and would I accept a BM transplant even tho I cdnt donate - you bet I would
[yeah OK overthinking this one]
jesus I think you opt back in when you get ill
will people who HAVE opted out at one time - ?
they will say that was then and this is now
there would be a larg-ish set not eligible or suitable - Hep B and Ca spring to mind - and would I accept a BM transplant even tho I cdnt donate - you bet I would
[yeah OK overthinking this one]
//I am against its the concept that the state can say that it can have my body and do what it likes with it. That's not donation, that is harvesting.//
But the state can’t have your body and do what it likes with it. You have the opportunity to say ‘No’. Your failure to do that implies agreement. That’s not ‘harvesting’.
But the state can’t have your body and do what it likes with it. You have the opportunity to say ‘No’. Your failure to do that implies agreement. That’s not ‘harvesting’.
fine, lets do reductio ad absurdam..... a transplant operation requires blood. The no organ for non donors principle says that I can only have blood....so if you agree to organ donation but have never been a blood donor, can you only have an organ but no blood?
For the third time I say that it is not the donor program that I object to but the harvesting of organs which this law will allow. Assuming that there comes a point where eg corneas are not needed at the point where the harvestee dies, can the corneas still be taken and what would happen to them? Perhaps the NHS could flog them off to cover its deficit?
For the third time I say that it is not the donor program that I object to but the harvesting of organs which this law will allow. Assuming that there comes a point where eg corneas are not needed at the point where the harvestee dies, can the corneas still be taken and what would happen to them? Perhaps the NHS could flog them off to cover its deficit?
I agree with woof, for the same reasons. Having an opt-out is not enough as that will mostly affect those without the mental capacity to understand or decide or fill in the right forms.
Deciding not to donate should make no difference to receiving an organ. Things get very complicated if we treat people depending on what they "deserve".
Deciding not to donate should make no difference to receiving an organ. Things get very complicated if we treat people depending on what they "deserve".
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