Tommy Robinson

[spathiphyllum]

Tommy Robinson has had his facebook and instagram account terminated. Facebook says he has continually violated its community standards with hate speech against Muslims.

Is you use social media in ways that violate their policies around organised hate then surely you're a bad person?

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //I don't devote any time to his poisonous ramblings//

In that case you have no idea what he says about anything - or even that his ramblings are, indeed, poisonous. The extent of your knowledge on the subject is now clear. Fair enough. Thank you for that.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // andy-hughes, //I don't devote any time to his poisonous ramblings//

In that case you have no idea what he says about anything - or even that his ramblings are, indeed, poisonous. The extent of your knowledge on the subject is now clear. Fair enough. Thank you for that. //

Please let me save you from erroneous conclusions -

Just because I don't read what 'Tommy Robinson' posts now, does not mean that I have not read enough of what he has posted in the past to form an opinion about him as a character, and about his views and objectives.

I have no reason to assume that his message has radically changed, so I don't believe I am missing anything significant by not keeping up on a daily basis.

When someone is as one-dimensional as 'Tommy Robinson', daily updates are really not a requirement.

[retrocop]

Trial by hearsay now:-(

[Baldric]

As always Retro, it is ABs finest at work ;o)

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // Trial by hearsay now:-( //

I have no idea what that means - but I'm really not bothered if you can't be bothered to elaborate.

[andy-hughes]

Baldric - // As always Retro, it is ABs finest at work ;o) //

My past post applies to you as well.

[retrocop]

You can spout your vitriol venom and spleen to your hearts content with regards to Mr Robinson. You call yourself a debater but at the end of the day this OP ended precisely as I expected . You argue on what other people say or write but cannot be bothered to read any of the alleged crimes that Mr Robinson has committed.I would of thought you have time enough to form your own opinion on the facts and not what other people think..
That is what I meant and you know what hearsay means or may be you are acting ignorant.

[naomi24]

andy-hughes, //I have no reason to assume that his message has radically changed//

Okay, you claim you know what his message is, so I'll ask again. What did he say?

[spathiphyllum]

Lady CG page 2

Just curious..

"I say Facebook are lying. "


How can they lie? They either did or didn't remove his account (facebook own instagram btw) due to violating community standards. Imam Mohamad Tawhidi posting a tweet on twitter promoting his own work doesn't say anything about tommys prescence on facebook and how facebook feel about that

[spathiphyllum]

Naomi he didn't say anything specific, fact is he "continually" violated community standards. So it's not what he said, it's what he constantly did, and what he did, was violate facebooks community standards with hate speech against Muslims.

[naomi24]

spath, not good enough. You said //"Facebook accused Robinson of "repeatedly" posting "calls for violence targeted at Muslims"// I want to know what he said to be accused of calling for violence.

[spathiphyllum]

you want a list of his repeated offences and precisely what he said?

[spathiphyllum]

And Naomi, if it's good enough or not, it's a fact. If you want further information you can contact facebook at facebook.com and i'm sure they wouldn't be that happy to give you a detailed report on Tommy Robinson and why they feel he shouldn't be given a voice on the platform.

I'm sure they'll tell you it's due to the fact he continually violated its community standards with hate speech against Muslims.

[naomi24]

spath, you now claim he said 'nothing specific' and yet said previously "Facebook accused Robinson of "repeatedly" posting "calls for violence targeted at Muslims". I'd say that's pretty specific.

[spathiphyllum]

If you say 50 things to get you banned from AB, it's not a specific thing you've said to get you banned, it's the fact you've said 50 things.

That is what i mean.

He didn't post a specific post which made them do this, it's the overall attitude and promoting of hate against Muslims.

[spathiphyllum]

Here you go Naom a bit more info.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/26/tommy-robinson-banned-from-facebook-and-instagram

" Facebook said: “When ideas and opinions cross the line and amount to hate speech that may create an environment of intimidation and exclusion for certain groups in society – in some cases with potentially dangerous offline implications – we take action.

“Tommy Robinson’s Facebook page has repeatedly broken these standards, posting material that uses dehumanizing language and calls for violence targeted at Muslims. He has also behaved in ways that violate our policies around organized hate.”

The ban comes a month after Facebook issued a final written warning against Robinson, warning him that if he continued to break the company’s hate speech policies he would be removed from its platform permanently.

That warning had been issued for breaches that included a post calling on people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Qur’an; a post calling on people to “make war” on Muslims; and multiple videos showing people being bullied."

[naomi24]

Another who has no idea what he said and yet is eager to repeat unfounded allegations and is delighted to see the man castigated. Okay spath, I get your drift. Nuff said.

[spathiphyllum]

It's a shame (lol it's really not) that his accounts got completely, permanently deleted so now we can't even go back on them and see the kind of crap he came out with.

[spathiphyllum]

LOL Naomi what are you on about? Don't get upset that TR is scum and that he's managed to get himself banend from twitter, facebook AND Instagram giving him YouTube as the only platform for him to promote his hate. You should be happy people are finally standing up to unjust.

[retrocop]

You are charged with going equipped to steal namely things.
What things my Lord?
Well things to steal with.
What specific things was I equipped with to go stealing?
Things to help you steal with. Do I have to spell it out. Guilty as charged.