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spathiphyllum | 13:00 Wed 06th Mar 2019 | News
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Well.. we all know artists aint perfect don't we.. So surely boycotting playing music by one of them because of their actions is a slippery slope. When does it stop? So many criminal rappers and some convicted murders, but there music is OK?


I hate double standards and this is a fat one.

Some music even promotes violence and it's still allowed.


https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/michael-jackson-radio-stations-music-play-ban-leaving-neverland-documentary-a8809646.html
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I agree. I have always argued in favour of the concept of seperating the artist from the art. If you start judging artistic output by the behavour of the artist, as you say, where does it stop? Once you have condemned all the abusers, do you turn to the tax frauds, the motorway speeders, the non-charity donors? The best way to avoid such a slippery slope is not to...
13:07 Wed 06th Mar 2019
MJ's music isn't being played 'because of their actions' it's because of the actions they are accused of. There's a small but significant difference.

Can you provide some examples of criminally convicted / accused rapper's music being played?
I agree.

I have always argued in favour of the concept of seperating the artist from the art.

If you start judging artistic output by the behavour of the artist, as you say, where does it stop?

Once you have condemned all the abusers, do you turn to the tax frauds, the motorway speeders, the non-charity donors?

The best way to avoid such a slippery slope is not to step on the beginning of it in the first place.
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That's not what i asked for Andy. I asked for examples of their music being played.
Cobblers.

The creations and the creators are two completely different things. It is quite possible to enjoy a song, novel or film and not like the lifestyle of the person who made them.

Are we supposed to never watch a Kevin Spacey film again because he is a sleazebag?

If it's 'cobblers', how come 'several stations around the world' have arrived at the same conclusion?
Because the shoe fits?
Zacs - // That's not what i asked for Andy. I asked for examples of their music being played. //

Equally simple - i am sure there are dozens if not hundreds of rap radio stations around the world that play music by every single one of them.
Zacs - // If it's 'cobblers', how come 'several stations around the world' have arrived at the same conclusion? //

Because, unlike the average rapper, Jackson is a world-wide cultural phenomenon, known and read about by people who wouldn;t recognise a rap track if it smacked them in the face.

The amount of money and influence tied up in the Jackson brand makes this issue the news that it is - and influences the reactions of radio stations with advertising revenue to lose by not toeing the line.
Zacs,
Because they are idiots and are pandering to their percieved audience.

It is utterly pointless not playing an old Michael Jackson song now. The songs are partof our culture (like them or not).

Occassionally you will get old songs that are supposed to not conform to modern standards, and there will be radio bans on 70 year songs such as “Baby, It’s Cold Outside”. Equally utterly bonkers.

If the song is inoffensive then a radio ban is ludicrous.
Excellent.

Looking forward to Gary Glitter, Jonathan King and Rolf back on TOTP2
'they are idiots and are pandering to their percieved audience'

I think they're actually pandering to their commercial interests in many cases. I'm not sure the audience is uppermost in their thoughts.
Zacs agreed.

The notion that an listener would not buy toothpaste because a Michael Jackson song was played before the advert is fanciful.

Radio stations are scared of losing advertisers, so they make daft bans such as this one.
good point doug!
douglas - // Looking forward to Gary Glitter, Jonathan King and Rolf back on TOTP2 //

I don't believe they should have been removed in the first place - as I have said, judge the artist, not the art.
What's a slippery sloap? Is it a surface with ice and a cant on it as described in Top Gear?
retrocop - // What's a slippery sloap? Is it a surface with ice and a cant on it as described in Top Gear? //

It's an acknowledged courtesy that we don't pick each other up on simple errors in spelling and grammar - it helps the flow of threads.
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ZM, off the complete top of my head, snoopdog.

"While recording Doggystyle in August 1993, Snoop Dogg was arrested in connection with the death of a member of a rival gang who was shot and killed by Snoop's bodyguard; both men were charged with murder as Dogg was driving the vehicle from which the gun was fired"
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ZM snoop dogg is not only played on radio stations, but also appears at many radio events.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02s1y7h/p02s1ybb

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