A 'coloured Woman'

[fender62]

so you cannot call a coloured woman coloured, what about a women of colour or black woman.
im lost on this arguement, looking for offence when none was meant, no wonder blacks cry were victims...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6782569/Tory-Amber-Rudd-caught-race-row-calls-Labours-Diane-Abbott-coloured-woman.html

[Theland]

Honky? Snowflake? Whitey?

[Mamyalynne]

Are you asking us to vote Theland?

Just choose one you prefer and politely ask people to use that reference to you.

As for crayons and detergent, well - the mind doth boggle.

[Theland]

No vote. Just refer to me as whatever you see. Am not offended!

[retrocop]

//To live in a society where you and you alone decide how you will address people, and you will take any offence as their fault and their defect is to live without due respect to other people - repsect which I am sure you would wish to be shown in turn to you.

In order to receive respect, you need to understand it, and offer it. //

I offered no respect for the society who often referred to myself and my colleagues as 'Raasclats' in the course of my duty. One of the most disgusting terms an Afro Caribbean can muster against another human being. I don't recall umbridge and indignant outrage when it was frequently aimed by the likes of Dianne Abbot and Bernie Grant's race.
All the advice we were given to counter these insults was from the Metropolitan Police Instruction Book. A lengthy tome we had to digest and refer to often.
Shoota will remember the instruction," Idle and silly remarks are unworthy of notice and should be disregarded"
Wonderful comforting advice when you get a Raasclat or used sanitary towel rubbed in your face whilst your arms are linked with a colleague at a Black demonstration in Brixton and their is nothing you can do about it.
Ms Abbot gets offended because an older person used,what was once acceptable,a description at the slip of the tongue.
These people steal my oxygen.

[Mamyalynne]

I'm sure Diane is older than Amber.

Diane should have shrugged it off, an apology should suffice.

[jackthehat]

If Abbott wasn't in the Labour party and Rudd in the Tories, I am sure little would have been said/made of this.
As it is, Rudd handed Abbott a nice big stick for her to set about the Tories with.......Politicking, politicking is all....

[Theland]

Dianne disgusts me .

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // I offered no respect for the society who often referred to myself and my colleagues as 'Raasclats' in the course of my duty. //

Those people are no more 'the society' than any white football hooligan who spat at you on a Saturday afternoon.

All societies and cultures have their abhorrent members, but we don't all assume that the entire society is like its worst members.

Otherwise I would be assuming that you must have been a corrupt and racist and sexist police officer- because some were, and are.

But I would be wrong to do that - wouldn't I?

[bodeker]

I am not sure any more what to call people, it keeps changing and I cannot keep up with all . I thought it was okay to call someone coloured now. It is getting ridiculous now, whatever is said someone will be offended.

[pixie374]

"Coloured" has been outdated for as long as I can remember, and I'm 45, so it isn't recent. However, surely offence is caused by attitudes, intentions and behaviour, not by using an old-fashioned word by mistake.

[bodeker]

Well I just typed a reply and my laptop conked out ! Thought if my post is gone I am not doing it again lol.
I would have just posted That the world is going to hell in a hand cart.
Anyone know where that expression comes from ? I don't

[Mamyalynne]

I'm sure I have made errors over the years but I have never really struggled to explain myself politely.

That cannot be said for the word my Mother used one day to describe a beautiful little girl and I expected a total meltdown - but when the child's Mother turned round and say the genuine joy on my Mum's face, she realised that she had said it without a clue of its true origin.

[Mamyalynne]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_hell_in_a_handbasket

[Togo]

// the world is going to hell in a hand cart.
Anyone know where that expression comes from ?//

Richard Littlejohn.

[bodeker]

Andres , when I was at school they used to sell little booklets, that had pictures of black babies , I believe it was used to send money abroad to help poor people , seems strange now but was popular at the time .

[bodeker]

Mamyalynne Wow thanks for that :)

[bodeker]

Also Togo :)

[Mamyalynne]

Catholic School?

We've have a few thread on 'Black Babies'.

[Mamyalynne]

We've had...

[Deskdiary]

Maggiebee was being a bit dim - if there was a room full of white blokes and I needed to point out the black bloke I would say "the black bloke". Nothing remotely wrong with that.

Trouble is people tread on eggshells, and I just don't get that. Black people are not offended at being described as black anymore than I am offended as being described as white.

I do however cringe at 'coloured' and 'half-caste'. My 80 year old FIL says 'darkie'. I've tried, I really have, but what's the point in trying to re-educate an 80 year old.

Of course the huge irony of all of this, and I'm prepared to accept Amber Rudd (who had a relationship with a black bloke) was a bit clumsy, was talking about somebody who, without a single shadow of a doubt, is a total racist (paraphrasing, all white people are colonialists - that is incredibly racist).