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A 'coloured Woman'
so you cannot call a coloured woman coloured, what about a women of colour or black woman.
im lost on this arguement, looking for offence when none was meant, no wonder blacks cry were victims...
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im lost on this arguement, looking for offence when none was meant, no wonder blacks cry were victims...
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Seems like most of them are colour blind in any case.As far as Abbot ,who will find offence anywhere, is concerned her skin tone is brown imo as are a lot of caribbeans like her. There are certainl dark ebony black particularly from Eastern Africa.
A Ugandan Asian lady on LBC today took no offence at being mistakenly described as black when she took up new employment but was criticised by a fellow Caribbean for allowing herself to be called black. It was almost like cultural theft and was objected to.
Sounds like the chips are getting larger for every reason.
A Ugandan Asian lady on LBC today took no offence at being mistakenly described as black when she took up new employment but was criticised by a fellow Caribbean for allowing herself to be called black. It was almost like cultural theft and was objected to.
Sounds like the chips are getting larger for every reason.
Retrocop:
Back in the 1980s, on an INSET (in-service education & training day) all of the staff from our school attended a course designed to help us tackle problems of racism which might arise within the school.
At the start of the meeting I asked the the two course leaders (who were both of Afro-Caribbean descent) what term we should use if we wanted to speak generically about anyone who wasn't of white British descent. I was told most emphatically that there was ONLY one term which was acceptable and that was 'black'. When I asked if the course leaders really meant that we should refer, for example, to our Chinese pupils as 'black' I was told (again most emphatically) "Yes, they're all black"!
(I mentioned that statement on the following day to a pupil whose parents ran the local Chinese takeaway. Probably unsurprisingly, she didn't agree!)
Back in the 1980s, on an INSET (in-service education & training day) all of the staff from our school attended a course designed to help us tackle problems of racism which might arise within the school.
At the start of the meeting I asked the the two course leaders (who were both of Afro-Caribbean descent) what term we should use if we wanted to speak generically about anyone who wasn't of white British descent. I was told most emphatically that there was ONLY one term which was acceptable and that was 'black'. When I asked if the course leaders really meant that we should refer, for example, to our Chinese pupils as 'black' I was told (again most emphatically) "Yes, they're all black"!
(I mentioned that statement on the following day to a pupil whose parents ran the local Chinese takeaway. Probably unsurprisingly, she didn't agree!)
The fact is, language and attitudes evolve as time passes.
What may have been acceptable twenty, ten, or even five years ago, may not be seen as acceptable now.
Part of the requirements for an adult living in a civilised society is to be aware of such cultural changes, and adapt to them.
If you feel comfortable giving offence willy-nilly because you feel you have the right to 'plain speaking' ( which is usually the refuge of the terminally rude), then that says more about you as an individual than the person(s) you may offend.
Ms. Rudd used a term thoughtlessly, it was a slip and she apologised.
Diane Abbott is someone who could be offended by the sound of someone breathing heavily after a five-mile jog - so this is sadly an opportunity for her to remind everyone how achingly right-on she is - which does the majority of her ethnicity no favours whatsoever.
What may have been acceptable twenty, ten, or even five years ago, may not be seen as acceptable now.
Part of the requirements for an adult living in a civilised society is to be aware of such cultural changes, and adapt to them.
If you feel comfortable giving offence willy-nilly because you feel you have the right to 'plain speaking' ( which is usually the refuge of the terminally rude), then that says more about you as an individual than the person(s) you may offend.
Ms. Rudd used a term thoughtlessly, it was a slip and she apologised.
Diane Abbott is someone who could be offended by the sound of someone breathing heavily after a five-mile jog - so this is sadly an opportunity for her to remind everyone how achingly right-on she is - which does the majority of her ethnicity no favours whatsoever.
My word . I am swooning.
//Diane Abbott is someone who could be offended by the sound of someone breathing heavily after a five-mile jog - so this is sadly an opportunity for her to remind everyone how achingly right-on she is - which does the majority of her ethnicity no favours whatsoever.//
I couldn't put it better myself but I made the effort.
//Diane Abbott is someone who could be offended by the sound of someone breathing heavily after a five-mile jog - so this is sadly an opportunity for her to remind everyone how achingly right-on she is - which does the majority of her ethnicity no favours whatsoever.//
I couldn't put it better myself but I made the effort.
retrocop - // Lets ban, Boney Em's 'Brown girl in the Ring' immediately.
I don't recall any criticism when this was doing well in the pop charts from our Dianne Abbot followers. //
As a hit from the 1970's - days of 'Love Thy Neighbour' 'Mind Your Language' and similar, it wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.
Ms Abbot would have been twenty-five, and probably yet to reach the pinnacle of her pointless thin-skinned attitude to the world around her.
I don't recall any criticism when this was doing well in the pop charts from our Dianne Abbot followers. //
As a hit from the 1970's - days of 'Love Thy Neighbour' 'Mind Your Language' and similar, it wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.
Ms Abbot would have been twenty-five, and probably yet to reach the pinnacle of her pointless thin-skinned attitude to the world around her.
Retrocop:
Forget 'Brown Girls in the Ring'. Listen to the lyrics of Lou Reed's 'Walk on the Wild Side'. Not only does it contain these lines
"And the coloured girls go
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo"
but it's apparently transphobic too!
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Forget 'Brown Girls in the Ring'. Listen to the lyrics of Lou Reed's 'Walk on the Wild Side'. Not only does it contain these lines
"And the coloured girls go
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo"
but it's apparently transphobic too!
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>>> Why is there any need in this day and age to describe anyone either by their colour or ethnicity?
Simply to help identify them more easily. For example, if I went back to a shop with a complaint and I was asked if I remembered who served me, it wouldn't be racist to say something like "It was a tall, black lady" (or, say, "It was a short man, with an Irish accent"). It would simply make it easier for the shop staff to work out who might be best placed to deal with my problem
Simply to help identify them more easily. For example, if I went back to a shop with a complaint and I was asked if I remembered who served me, it wouldn't be racist to say something like "It was a tall, black lady" (or, say, "It was a short man, with an Irish accent"). It would simply make it easier for the shop staff to work out who might be best placed to deal with my problem
Buenchico - That is absolutely pricless!
Only students have the time and the inclination to assume offence from strangers, and then invite them to come and say how offended they are, and how the students camn do better.
I have lived long enough in this world, and known enough people who do not conform to the 'norms' of society to know that the two things you need to develop to shield you on your way through what may be difficult times - are a well-developed sense of self-deprication, and a robust sense of humour. A sense of self-awareness and a thick skin can be taken as read!!
Only students have the time and the inclination to assume offence from strangers, and then invite them to come and say how offended they are, and how the students camn do better.
I have lived long enough in this world, and known enough people who do not conform to the 'norms' of society to know that the two things you need to develop to shield you on your way through what may be difficult times - are a well-developed sense of self-deprication, and a robust sense of humour. A sense of self-awareness and a thick skin can be taken as read!!
I agree, fender. I remmeber when coloured was the accepted term and we'd shy away from saying black. I know that black is now the accepted term (although people of colour is I think acceptable to black- or is it non-white- people) but in some situations when i've been describing someone and maybe been caught off guard I've used the wrong term. I once heard myself used the term half-cast when referring to a particularly good junior football player in an otherwise all white team and then immediately realised it was the wrong term. It's so easily done, especially for older people who have seen so many terms used in their lifetime
