What If The Labour Party Got Rid Of...
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Exciting Isn't It?
Can't wait for the next Brexit surprise....what could it be?
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The reality here is that her strategy of blaming MP's is fatally flawed.She has to make massive inroads to win over the necessary folk but by blaming all and sundry and issuing an ultimatum she has only succeeded in creating a further rift.
She is finished now.Whatever hope she had she has blown it and completely self-destructed.
She is finished now.Whatever hope she had she has blown it and completely self-destructed.
Here's what's happened next:
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"Theresa May has appealed to the public over Brexit, telling them she understood they had had enough, and adding: "I am on your side."
This from a woman who is an avowed Remainer (albeit one who "promised to deliver the Brexit people voted for")and whose only strategy is to continually put the same appalling deal (which does not remotely deliver the said Brexit) to reluctant MP's time after time in the hope that enough of them die of boredom.
Quite why she's appealing to the public is a little mysterious. The public has no influence over its MPs and it is they who have rejected all the options, from appalling to appealing. The simple way out of this is to offer MPs the only two options available: Mrs May's deal or No Deal. It should be a single "either/or" vote. Two votes will only allow them to do what they've already done. MPs should no longer have the luxury of simply rejecting everything they are offered. They need to make a decision.
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"Theresa May has appealed to the public over Brexit, telling them she understood they had had enough, and adding: "I am on your side."
This from a woman who is an avowed Remainer (albeit one who "promised to deliver the Brexit people voted for")and whose only strategy is to continually put the same appalling deal (which does not remotely deliver the said Brexit) to reluctant MP's time after time in the hope that enough of them die of boredom.
Quite why she's appealing to the public is a little mysterious. The public has no influence over its MPs and it is they who have rejected all the options, from appalling to appealing. The simple way out of this is to offer MPs the only two options available: Mrs May's deal or No Deal. It should be a single "either/or" vote. Two votes will only allow them to do what they've already done. MPs should no longer have the luxury of simply rejecting everything they are offered. They need to make a decision.
It seems many MP's have taken to social media in reaction and they are livid!
Even another billion pound bung to the 10 DUP's won't cut it and then she has to gain a hell of a lot of other dissenters.
Who does she think she is? She seems to think she is superhuman being that can walk on water.
Doomed to failure.
Even another billion pound bung to the 10 DUP's won't cut it and then she has to gain a hell of a lot of other dissenters.
Who does she think she is? She seems to think she is superhuman being that can walk on water.
Doomed to failure.
NJ, I wish you’d tell one of your Leave voting allies that the British public have no sway over MPs. Earlier today he said ‘the Government are styimed by TROB and liberal thinkers such as ZM’.
Strange you should have voted to let these MPs, who we have (by your own admission) no influence over, have total control of our affairs. Surely we’re no better off than under the influence of the EU overlords?
Strange you should have voted to let these MPs, who we have (by your own admission) no influence over, have total control of our affairs. Surely we’re no better off than under the influence of the EU overlords?
//Quite why she's appealing to the public is a little mysterious.//
She isn't. The public realised that she was much less than appealing way before the intelligentsia did. In years to come psychiatrist will have a field day with her personality disorders, meanwhile like all sociopaths she blames everyone else for her malady.
She isn't. The public realised that she was much less than appealing way before the intelligentsia did. In years to come psychiatrist will have a field day with her personality disorders, meanwhile like all sociopaths she blames everyone else for her malady.
//Which begs the question "How on Earth did this country allow itself to become enmeshed with politicians and civil servants envisage the above being necessary (or even considered) if we leave?" Ye Gods! //
There is indeed more Judge. The stuff that we are not deemed intelligent or sufficiently educated enough to be entrusted with.
// “Ministers at a no-deal Brexit planning meeting on Thursday [January 3] were told that 30,000 regular troops and 20,000 reserves must be ready to help manage the consequences.” Elwood was reported as warning that the troops had to be in place “in case of civil unrest, to assist at Britain’s airports and to ensure fuel and medical supplies.”
The mobilisation proposed is extraordinary. Fifty thousand soldiers are close to half the current size of the British Army, which currently stands at 81,500 regulars and just over 27,000 reservists. It is more than the force sent by the British government to invade Iraq in 2003 as part of the US-led invasion.
Elwood was clear that this force should be directed above all against the working class. The source reported that he “suggested that fellow ministers should remember what happened in the fuel blockade in 2000 [when troops were used to protect fuel deliveries] and plan for that kind of thing on a mass scale. ...”
Only last month, the government announced that 3,500 troops would be on standby to “support any government department on any contingencies they may need,” according to Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson. The 3,500 would be in addition to 5,000 troops continually on standby—nominally to be deployed in the event of a terrorist attack—and would be composed of both regular and reserve forces. Now, it is reported that 10 times that number may be deployed.//
Read it and weep.
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There is indeed more Judge. The stuff that we are not deemed intelligent or sufficiently educated enough to be entrusted with.
// “Ministers at a no-deal Brexit planning meeting on Thursday [January 3] were told that 30,000 regular troops and 20,000 reserves must be ready to help manage the consequences.” Elwood was reported as warning that the troops had to be in place “in case of civil unrest, to assist at Britain’s airports and to ensure fuel and medical supplies.”
The mobilisation proposed is extraordinary. Fifty thousand soldiers are close to half the current size of the British Army, which currently stands at 81,500 regulars and just over 27,000 reservists. It is more than the force sent by the British government to invade Iraq in 2003 as part of the US-led invasion.
Elwood was clear that this force should be directed above all against the working class. The source reported that he “suggested that fellow ministers should remember what happened in the fuel blockade in 2000 [when troops were used to protect fuel deliveries] and plan for that kind of thing on a mass scale. ...”
Only last month, the government announced that 3,500 troops would be on standby to “support any government department on any contingencies they may need,” according to Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson. The 3,500 would be in addition to 5,000 troops continually on standby—nominally to be deployed in the event of a terrorist attack—and would be composed of both regular and reserve forces. Now, it is reported that 10 times that number may be deployed.//
Read it and weep.
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As an aside, what the heck is wrong with politicians who think in this way? May's deal should be evaluated on its own merits, not be passed conditional on her stepping down.
Nadine Dorries has been one of Parliament's more vocal Brexit supporters, and in that sense I'm wary of being called partisan, but this is surely shameful.
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Nadine Dorries has been one of Parliament's more vocal Brexit supporters, and in that sense I'm wary of being called partisan, but this is surely shameful.
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Mrs May ran out of cards a long time ago and is left holding a pair of jokers.
Just when you thought the nadir had been reached she took it a stage further pouring scorn on the only people she had to win over.
How does she think she can gain the support of the House when she produces a display like that?
Completely unprofessional and unethical and will leave a very sour taste in the mouth of MP's and voters everywhere...
Just when you thought the nadir had been reached she took it a stage further pouring scorn on the only people she had to win over.
How does she think she can gain the support of the House when she produces a display like that?
Completely unprofessional and unethical and will leave a very sour taste in the mouth of MP's and voters everywhere...
May is deluded.....she can no more "cancel" Brexit day than she can Christmas Day.
They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords, Lords without anger and honour, who dare not carry their swords. They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes; They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies. And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs, Their doors are shut in the evening; and they know no songs.
A.K. Chesterton. "The Secret People".
They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords, Lords without anger and honour, who dare not carry their swords. They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes; They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies. And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs, Their doors are shut in the evening; and they know no songs.
A.K. Chesterton. "The Secret People".
I agree Jim about nadine dorries. However there is surely more to it than simple displeasure at May. Some think that once she is out of the way they can exercise a sort of putsch of the Brexiteers. Maybe with justification although what that would do to the Tory party one can only imagine.
Plainly this speech last night was an attempt to blackmail MPs into supporting her - for now. Aside from the problem of risking alienating the very people you actually need to convince, she seems incapable of grasping that as long as their remains the prospect of this process ending in Brexit with no deal, she is a hostage to the hardliners anyway. And many of the people who shout loudest about Brexit, while complaining about parliament, actually don’t want her deal anyway.
Plainly this speech last night was an attempt to blackmail MPs into supporting her - for now. Aside from the problem of risking alienating the very people you actually need to convince, she seems incapable of grasping that as long as their remains the prospect of this process ending in Brexit with no deal, she is a hostage to the hardliners anyway. And many of the people who shout loudest about Brexit, while complaining about parliament, actually don’t want her deal anyway.
