Why Is May Still There?

[diddlydo]

She should be on her way to tender her resignation to the Queen - why is she not doing so?

[ichkeria]

Vetuste there was one pollster who called it right from the word go I think: can’t remember which one.

[naomi24]

I didn't predict the result either. Most unexpected - but then as I understand it one poster thinks all ABers (on a normal day) are thickos, so that could explain it, ;o)

[fender62]

as for labour, thye do not give a fig about brexit, only to get in to power..sad really and very unelectable, as for tory mp's who voted it down..i think they again do not give a fig either, long term goal jobs in the eu hierarchy..i think the whole things become a farce, were the laughing stock..as for the northern ireland, we should have cut them loose years ago, and let them be united and have there civil war, and stay out of it...no funding or help either, like a sore that never heals.

[Cloverjo]

The DUP were worth the billion pounds then, weren’t they?
Can we get a refund?

[ichkeria]

Tonight the DUP have said they they would support remaining in the EU now if the backstop can’t be removed.

[jim360]

YouGov predicted a hung Parliament and got almost all seats correct to boot, with a more sophisticated statistical model. It was roundly panned here, which in retrospect seems a little naive.

It's worth pointing out that Parliament did indeed vote for Article 50 notification, but didn't specify a date and time to sign it, so that doesn't let May off the hook for rushing the process.

[ichkeria]

Nigel Farage has made a bizarre speech. Calling MPs traitors - for voting down a deal he hates?
Calling Westminster “enemy territory” - the place he tried and failed about 8 times to enter?
Not that he’s bitter at all ..

I have to say some of those protesters, young or old, look increasingly like an eccentric minority.

[jim360]

It remains to be seen whether they're now a minority or still slightly more than half the voters. Most polls suggest a little movement away from Brexit since 2016, but not exactly enough to feel confident. And even if it were, say, now 60/40 in favour, that's a lot of angry Brexit supporters.

But the most notable thing about the protests, really, is how about half of the crowd booed the result and the other half cheered that May's Deal had been voted down. If Brexit supporters are themselves that divided, what hope the rest of the country?

[-Talbot-]

The simplest thing to do is leave on WTO rules and let the reamainers start their campaign to get us back in...who knows it may go that well they will change their mind and give it up.

[ichkeria]

What I’m saying Jim is that the impression you get from the relative protests that the Brexit ones are made up of people clinging to a subset of the Leave concept that is “simple” “extreme” or whatever. They are essentially the UKIP Brexiters. I guess I’m trying to avoid saying that the Remain demo particularly last week was made up of more “normal” and I’m almost scared to say it but “diverse” people. That’s far from saying that overall the numbers nationwide on each side are reflected in the size of the demos.

[grumpy01]

It really is a mess.I think the only thing Parliament will agree on is to revoke article 50.

[naomi24]

//But the most notable thing about the protests, really, is how about half of the crowd booed the result and the other half cheered that May's Deal had been voted down. If Brexit supporters are themselves that divided, what hope the rest of the country? //

Ahhhh. Still confused Jim.

[pixie374]

Jim, you are making it sound much more confused than it is. We have the answer... It needs to now be implemented. It wasn't ever a sliding scale , just a stay or leave.

[Bazile]

Can someone please text me when this whole sorry saga is over ?

[jno]

not sure I'll still be alive, Bazile, but if I am and text messages have become obsolete, I'll probably be able to do it by telepathy

[Kromovaracun]

//It wasn't ever a sliding scale , just a stay or leave.//

This is not actually how it was presented by the official Leave campaign. They said we didn't even necessarily have to trigger A50, and suggested we would end up in the EEA.

[jim360]

Why are you calling me confused, when I was commenting on what the Brexit supporters were doing? As I say, some welcomed yesterday's defeat and some lamented it. I don't see how that reflects on my confusion.

[dannyk13]

According to the latest news May is going to bring her deal back again next week.

[jim360]

Perhaps "is" is too strong -- but yes, that's certainly what she is thinking about.

[ichkeria]

It could be subject to an amendment: a referendum.
I see Dominic Grieve has been deselected by his Beaconsfield constituency association and there are already calls for this association to be suspended from the party. The first shots in the real civil war?