Caster Semenya Looses Case

[youngmafbog]

Victory for the women who race?

I can't see this going away anytime soon so how will this end up, one race for everyone or a separate race for those classed in between?


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/may/01/caster-semenya-loses-landmark-legal-case-iaaf-athletics

[-Talbot-]

Zacs Master
Indeed. that's probably why AOG wrote 'Black Athletes are superior in certain sport events'.




Where did he write that?

[pixie374]

It is binary, zacs. You are male or female. In rare cases, you might be both or neither. But never in between. There is no such thing. "Intersex" is a misleading name, I agree though. It generally just means the reproductive organs haven't developed as usual.

[-Talbot-]

I see that AOG posted this on page 1

since it is often shown that Black Athletes are much more superior in certain events.



Which is quite different to

'I have already admitted that Black athletes are superior'

Which you claim all the world knows.
So again...evidence?
'

[anotheoldgit]

youngmafbog

/// It's only Kenya that seems to do well, and that is only of late AOG. ///

Maybe in the London Marathon, but that was just an example.

Here are the top 10 fastest runners in the World (100 meter dash)

Usain Bolt Jamaican – 9.58

Tyson Gay Afro American – 9.69

Yohan Blake Jamaican – 9.69

Asafa Powell Jamaican – 9.72

Nesta Carter Jamaican – 9.78

Maurice Greene Afro American – 9.79

Justin Gatlin Afro American – 9.79

Steve Mullings Jamaican – 9.80

Bruny Surin Afro Canadian – 9.84

Donovan Bailey Afro Canadian – 9.84

[Zacs-Master]

Talbot, I would be stupid to make that comment thinking it pertained to the whole of athletics. My comments were made with his 'certain events' in mind.
I suppose I should really have written 'the whole of the *right thinking* world'.

[ToraToraTora]

talbot, you are trying to reason with TJM! Good luck with that!

[Zacs-Master]

Trigger, Give it a rest mah sahn.

[ToraToraTora]

TBF he seems to have the physique of mid distance runner anyway, so work hard and compete with the rest of the men.

[pixie374]

Black runners usually do have more red blood cells and are better over long distances. It seems irrelevant though, to "separate" them, as if they are a different breed. White people have a genetic advantage towards swimming.

[Zacs-Master]

Yes, I was going to cite swimming as an 'opposite' case. Would AOG want a separate black swimming event? Can you imagine!!!

[pixie374]

Who knows??

[jno]

interesting article here by an athlete who lost to Semanya, said it was unfair ... but has since studied the subject more and decided she got it wrong

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/01/losing-caster-semenya-decision-wrong-women-testosterone-iaaf

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs-Master

/// wow, how very big of you. Admitting something the rest of the world already knows and accepts. ///

Well then, if the rest of the world knows, then they therefore have an unfair advantage over the less superior white runners, so what is wrong in suggesting segregation in track events?

[pixie374]

Yea, Jno. I have seen the same argument from people who have lost to "transgender men" and have quickly been pressured to apologise. She clearly hasn't really looked into it, but is scared.

[Zacs-Master]

AOG, If you can't see what's wrong with needless segregation, then you're a lost cause (I actually figured this out a few years ago).

[pixie374]

Aog... I don't think the white race can really claim to be oppressed and treated unfairly. The races are comparable enough that they don't need to be separated for athletics. You are on an entirely different subject.

[anotheoldgit]

pixie374

/// White people have a genetic advantage towards swimming. ///

Then to be equally fair to Black swimmers, perhaps there should be segregation for them also?

[Zacs-Master]

He does, he does! OMG!!!

[pixie374]

How very generous of you :-)
How about we treat men as men and women as women... as that is where the most differences are? You wouldn't race adults against 4 year olds... a little common sense is needed.

[pixie374]

Lol zacs... we all knew, but wanted him to drop himself in it voluntarily x