Shamima Begum's Family Blame Britain For Failing To Protect Her From Being 'groomed' By Isis.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7089569/Javid-accused-human-fly-tipping-decision-Shamima-Begum-citizenship.html

So once again it's Britain's fault is it? Surely her family should be held responsible for what their child turned out to be.

[Peter Pedant]

// (what the hell was your 15:02 rambling all about?) //

well - there are these very bad people AOG and some of them are in the UK - near you probably
and some are abroad.

and vulnerable gormless youngsters ( no not you AOG ) may be taken in by what they read - no not the daily mail

and do stupid things

and some of us say they should be recognised and assisted

and others ( such as you AOG - say help help I am going to be murdered in my bed tonight!) and then do nothing but wring your hands and spout

[MallyJ]

Gold star PP.....from me

[anotheoldgit]

MallyJ

/// The point seems to be that whilst Shamina was interviewed by the anti terrorist squad, along with her friends nobody in that group bothered to tell her parents that she was under investigation ///

And quite rightly so, no point it telling your potential enemies what investigations against their activities are taking place.

[THECORBYLOON]

Were her parents being investigated?

[vetuste_ennemi]

"Searching the internet...", "on/off switches on the computer...".

Here we go again: it's always dark forces somewhere "out there", never anything to do with Islam and how Islam is being taught in UK mosques (check the Didsbury mosque attended by the Libyan family which gave us the Manchester murders). The fact that this nonsense is so widely believed shows what can be achieved by the constant repetition of lies (whether knowingly or out of ignorance) by the media and by those organs of the state set up expressly to protect the UK's citizens. The article by Douglas Murray in Fender's link should help disabuse people of this lie.

The repetition on this thread of that other piece of propaganda, that Miss Begum has been "groomed", is intended to portray her as a victim. The use of the same word to describe her conversion to violence as that used to describe the means by which tens of thousands of vulnerable girls were conscripted into sexual slavery by the Muslim rape gangs is disgusting, and it's shameful to see it repeated here.

This is a TV documentary of the Regent's Park mosque:

[Bigbad]

Lee Rigby, Westminster, Manchester Arena, London Bridge.

A total of 35 dead and around 217 injured.

All the perpetrators/their families had been let into the UK from some backwards rat hole.

“The only blame this country should be accountable for is allowing them here in the first place and continue to let them live here.”

Spot on, retrocop.

[Peter Pedant]

thsi is Mystic Meg and Minority report rolled into one

you cant come in because your child to be born - nay conceived even - may be terroristen ! (*)

1000ABers chant - yeah right on - thats what we want !
one voice at the back - unless they're white of course !

(*) late entry from Medium: Allison DuBois - my jarb is to prevent killing and I can see her face - it is brown and in a cowl ! I can't see it all

[tamborine]

Being groomed by her own tribe? Best she look inwards.

[douglas9401]

Shoplifting, bullying, vandalism, known by children to be 'a bad thing'.

Joining, supporting and trying to enlarge a stoneage death cult, 'how could she possibly have known?'

Stop it.

[Peter Pedant]

// enlarge a stoneage death cult,//

oh for chrissakes Dougie - unless you mean - the Druids or Celts - but even THEY were Iron Age. Be serious
( yes I really wrote - - - be serious! - - seriously PP sniggers involuntarily)

650 AD - contemporary with Cynewald ( who he den etc ) and a little before Alfred - as I said to the Egyptians 50 y ago - by the time the Pharaonic times were over - the English were still swinging in the trees. History for the English began 500 - 1000 y later ....

[anotheoldgit]

Peter Pedant

/// you cant come in because your child to be born - nay conceived even - may be terroristen ! (*) ///

Always better to be safe than later sorry.

[anotheoldgit]

Peter Pedant

News for you Peter some of the adults we let in are potential terrorists or even terrorists in their own right, that is even before they start breeding others.

[anotheoldgit]

Peter Pedant

/// - the English were still swinging in the trees. ///

Oh dear, oh dear, you would never been allowed to state that (and rightly so) if you had put 'The Africans were still swinging in the trees'.

[Zacs-Master]

But he didn’t! Stop it with the irrelevant, spurious and childish ‘what if’ posts. Stick to what has been said rather than invent them.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Why is it somebody who goes to the Middle East to join a group which murders and rapes non-Muslims (or "not the right kind of" Muslims) is described as acting "stupidly" and some allowance made (in Miss Begum's case) because she's young and impressionable, whereas anybody who attends a demonstration protesting some of the vile acts many Muslims are committing in this country are invariably accused of promoting hate, and cut no slack at all?

[anotheoldgit]

Zacs Master

/// But he didn’t! ///

Oh! pardon me, so Peter Pedant didn't say:

/// - the English were still swinging in the trees. ///

Zac is your Master really Peter Pedant?

[JF85]

"If they had not been allowed into this country, their offspring would not have been born in this country."

I wonder how many US citizens think that about their president?

[Zacs-Master]

Erm, no. He didn’t say it was Africans. As you stated in some sort of weird effort to.......
Well, I’m not really sure what.

[anotheoldgit]

But he did say:

/// the English were still swinging in the trees. ///

You can't deny that, I was just pulling him up for saying that by presenting an opposite view, seeing that I was offended by his racialist accusation, that the English were Apes.

All in my quest for a level playing field, you understand.

But then that is useless pointing that out to the likes of you, seeing that your playing field slopes only one way.

[ummmm]

Goodness sake, many children could debate better than AOG.