Another Seemingly Weird Decision By The Courts

[Spicerack]

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/19/four-girl-gang-members-spared-jail-despite-horrific-attack-student-died-10016111/?ico=pushly-notifcation-small&utm_source=pushly

Poor girl and her family.

[pixie374]

I think so, sqad. To me personally, I would guess they had caused it. How easy would it be to prove though?
I'm not a doctor, didn't conduct the autopsy and have no idea of previous medical history. It's hard to guess for definite.

[spathiphyllum]

They were just stupid little idiotic kids. Of course they didn't intend to kill her. Just being pathetically juvenile and if anything, gang mentality.

[hereIam]

'The court should avoid criminalising young people unnecessarily'. What the bloody hell is that supposed to mean ?? They are already criminals after this vile attack on an innocent girl who should still be living her life. I say, throw away the damn key, they are no use to society at all and probably never will be !! Sick, sick, sick ..

[pixie374]

HIA, it means they don't want to let them out worse. The biggest thing, surely, is to prevent reoffending, not to increase the likelihood?

[hereIam]

^ Two of them were 18, NOT kids, but adults.

[dannyk13]

Spath, //They were just stupid little idiotic kids.//
Two of them were eighteen

[pixie374]

I wouldn't go that far, spath. They clearly intended serious injury at least.

[hereIam]

^ That was to spath.

pixie, I'm happy with my comment thank you very much.

[pixie374]

No, they are 18 now, so they can be named. They weren't then.

[pixie374]

Fair enough x

[EDDIE51]

As ALWAYS in these cases we can ONLY know a small part of the case details !
Most of the evidence would have been given 'In Camera' (this does not mean it was filmed! 'In Camera' is a legal term for 'In secret 'with only the Judge and the solicitors present ! )

[dannyk13]

Pixie, where does it say how old they were at the time of the offence?

[pixie374]

We know, Eddie x
Danny... //Explaining why he had not passed a custodial sentence, Judge Spruce said a defendant must be sentenced in accordance with the age they were at the time of the offence, even if they had since become an adult.


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[pixie374]

Sorry...
//two eighteen year old girls who can now be named//
Implies to me that they weren't, but now are. I might be reading it wrongly.

[dannyk13]

Thanks Pixie, I missed that bit.

[spathiphyllum]

"two 18-year-old girls, who can now be named" - implying they previously couldn't be named. I can only assume due to their age.

[spathiphyllum]

There could have been other reasons around why they were unable to be named, though.

[spathiphyllum]

Ah yes, confirmed.

Under the pic of the lady in the hospital bed..

"against a bus shelter on February 20 last year, and died almost a month later on March 14"

So this happened last year, meaning they were very likely to have been 17 at the time.

[pixie374]

As far as I know, spath, only under 18s.

[pixie374]

They were also all trialled in a Youth Court.