Uk Embassy Cables Leaked: Brexit Threatened

[Peter Pedant]

OK this is not really a brexit thread but I thought it would get the masses to read....

Hasnt anyone noticed that diplomatic cables should be sent in the highest code? ( Japanese purple code etc 1941, and Lorenz cypher 1942-45) so how come last week's were leaked ?
or did the old boy leave them in an unlocked case somewhere ? [like the Falkland plans were]

and the comment - "oh everyone says that in the washington bubble - you have no idea how awful the current administration is"

a further question - what does everyone think?

[10ClarionSt]

There's a contradiction here isn't there? The emails criticise the Yanks as being inept, amongst other things, yet our govt has managed to allow the emails to become public knowledge. Pot/Kettle scenario.

[Peter Pedant]

Hi Clar'
nice sunny morning up my end of Oldham Rd
govt didnt leak them
so who did ?
cui bono ? ( if you write ancient stuff)

leaker a disappointed Ponting figure in the FO ? not likely is it?

my who-leaked-what-and-why? crystal ball is clouded

[Peter Pedant]

blimey
they are treating it as a leak from inside the FO
(unpatriotic and unprofessional)
wow

[bhg481]

The ambassador must know to whom he sent the emails, either a single person or a distribution list. It shouldn't be too difficult to trace the leak.

[Old_Geezer]

Knowing that possibilities to leak is a permanent risk and can't be allowed to prevent folk sending that they feel is important. One might argue as to what is entrusted to e-mail but one can't always be around for face to face meetings.

The press were utterly irresponsible to risk international relationships by publishing, unless they had been in on the reason for it being leaked and agreed with it. One might even suspect that some wished Darroch removed from post, but surely that sort of thing could never happen.

[ToraToraTora]

I don't see how brexit is "threatened"!

[douglas9401]

That's all cleared up for you in the first sentence, Tora.

[Peter Pedant]

most posters have read line 2:
but here it is again
//"OK this is not really a brexit thread but I thought it would get the masses to read...."// - and I had you in mind !

thx for reading

[ToraToraTora]

no need, I read all the threads in news.

[Hopkirk]

Our ambassador sounds like he is very astute, and doing exactly what he should be doing.

The Donald would have done well to not react.

[Peter Pedant]

// no need, I read all the threads in news.//
but not with attention...

was it Phineas T Barnum who said it is not possible to underestimate the readers of AB ? I think he must have

The ambassady is coming to an end of his tenure ( washington paree, berlin are the very apex of a diplomats career) and so it reeally may be a Farage supporter -
surely a farage supporter wdnt do this, wd he ? fix up the Nige for washington ?

didnt anthony blunt ( gay russian spy and traitor) say - thank god someone has put his frenz above his country ?
( he didnt get much support from thatcher for that I can tell you)

[Peter Pedant]

The Nige for ambassady - -

surely an ambassador is meant to support his country and not try to frack it and gain power? [ in this case from afar )

[Old_Geezer]

Getting involved with returning one's country's sovereignty and becoming a friend on a powerful foreign leader is surely supporting one's country.

[Old_Geezer]

OF

[ichkeria]

The leaker needs hanging out to dry.
This is the caper Julian Assange was at for a time, albeit it made fascinating reading.
If diplomats can’t speak freely - I.e. do their job properly for fear of compromise - then that’s a grave matter.
The level of cipher is immaterial. Whoever leaked this didn’t need to break any codes.

[andres]

Not been very 'diplomatic' has he?
Sack him immediately and also the person who 'leaked'the email.

[Peter Pedant]

Blimey well the mandarins are well and truly squealing !

[to be a celestial Mandarin in Imperial China, it was necessary to have some bulls - and lose them ! castration was an entry requirement]

Dr Johnson said
an ambassady is an honest man sent abroad to lie for his country

(representing your own ideas doesnt come in to it, innit?
unless the diplomat says diplomatically " my ideas are your ideas Mr XYZ " - I was finking of taking the FO exams, you need two languages and a paper in mathematical linguisitics - it is supposed to measure if you can learn a new language)

[Peter Pedant]

yes itch
leaker - I keep on thinking it says hacker ( yeah yeah I know it doesnt)

[jno]

the memos were leaked to Isabel Oakeshott, a very pro-Brexit journalist. So yes, publication could well be a Brexiter manoeuvre to sack Darroch and repalce him with Farage. We'll see.

[retrocop]

It's a plot to scupper Brexit. Antagonise POTUS and bang goes the free Trade agreements that us Brexiteers are told await us. Used to be we couldn't trust the US with our secrets (Enigma code break). Now the Americans not only call us some derogatory remark 'Londonistan' but we have now proved we cannot stop alleged diplomatic files from leaking and falling into the wrong hands.
We know it is the job description for ambassadors to report back the politics of the country they reside.The US Ambassador ,no doubt, reports the fiasco in UK politics at the moment but keeps his comments in house.
IMO this is a deliberate attempt to cause a rift between the UK and US.
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