Tommy Robinson Sentenced To 9 Weeks In Prison But Will Serve Up To One Half Of That Period.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-case-live-prison-sentence-jail-court-old-bailey-latest-updates-a8999986.html#post-1169438660

[naomi24]

v_e. //what, in the eyes of the Law, makes Tommy Robinson so special? //

I refer you to my post at 16.52.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//...a concerted effort to deflect criticism from Islam and from those who follow Islam. That is precisely why the media has taken to referring to grooming gangs as ‘Asian’ rather than Muslim//

Anybody follow the inquest into the London Bridge attack? How often was the religious motivation of the murderers mentioned?

A bit of fun, spot the number of times the M-word and the I-word are used in this article:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/13/inquests-open-into-deaths-of-london-bridge-attack-victims

[vetuste_ennemi]

//I refer you to my post at 16.52//

All becomes clear now, Naomi.

[naomi24]

I rest my case.... for the time being.

[andy-hughes]

Naomi - // It’s clear that the criticism – much of it positively vitriolic - aimed at Tommy Robinson does not emanate solely from his having broken the law – to claim so is utterly disingenuous - but from a concerted effort to deflect criticism from Islam and from those who follow Islam. That is precisely why the media has taken to referring to grooming gangs as ‘Asian’ rather than Muslim – and it’s a very slippery slope. The most serious crimes and the most foul of criminals have somehow been eclipsed by the wilful demonization of someone who has the courage to speak out in support of the victims of what can only be described as a filthy and despicable mind-set. //

I think you have a point insofar as the criticism in the media of 'Tommy Robinson' remains front and centre, while criticism of Asian grooming gangs retreats. On that point I think the media are correct to refer to the gangs as 'Asian' rather than 'Muslim' because there is no proof that all perpetrators are Muslims, and to make that link encourages the public to conclude that all gang abusers are Muslims, which may well turn out not to be the case. It would be similarly wrong to refer to all Nazis as Christians, even though most of them nominally were - tying horrendous acts wholesale to a faith is not accurate, and creates a divisive perception which helps no-one.

But where does the responsibility lie for the media obsession with 'Tommy Robinson'? It lies fairly and squarely with 'Tommy Robinson' himself. Of late, his ludicrous posturing, grandstanding, attention seeking, and law breaking, has had far less to do with the laudable intentions with which he first came to media attention.

These days, he is far too busy playing the martyr and bleating about being personally victimised, ignoring the fact that his lawbreaking may well have escaped legal and media attention had he been even slightly less keen to pursue said attention with a zeal bordering on obsession.

Yes' Tommy Robinson' spoke out about dreadful people committing dreadful acts, but that is long in the past. All he speaks out about now is his own monstrous ego, and obsession that he is 'persecuted' for his 'journalism' - gaining yet more media attention to his apparent cause to be the most listened to, photographed and videoed individual in the country.

And while the media soak up Tommy Robinson behaving like both ends of a pantomime horse simultaniously, attention focused on him could be turned on the shadowy gangs of perverts who operate in the shadows, and are delighted at the attention diverted from them and their dreadful actions.

Maybe if 'Tommy Robinson' took a break from himself, the media spotlight could be swiveled in the direction of the horrors he assisted in bringing to national attention before his ego took over - that would be a better use of everyone's time.

[naomi24]

^And there you have it - yet again.

[Baldric]

I kind of lost the will to live going through that @ 1722.

[naomi24]

I've lost the will to respond in any depth to such as that, Baldric.

[sanmac]

Talking about going off on tangents, now we have Nazis thrown into the pot...you certainly do flail around somewhat in the fashion of a whirling dervish. Your absolute detestation towards this man and his actions is approaching the pathological.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - // ^And there you have it - yet again. //

My disdain for 'Tommy Robinson' is partly motivated by his obsession with polishing his 'image' in the media, which, as I have advised, detracts from the more serious issues the media could be addressing - such as grooming gangs.

[andy-hughes]

sanmac - // Talking about going off on tangents, now we have Nazis thrown into the pot...you certainly do flail around somewhat in the fashion of a whirling dervish. // Your absolute detestation towards this man and his actions is approaching the pathological. //

My reference to the Nazis was an illustration concerning the linking of horrible activities to an entire faith structure - nothing 'flailing' there.

// Your absolute detestation towards this man and his actions is approaching the pathological. //

pathological
(pæθəlɒdʒɪkəl )
1.
adjective
You describe a person or their behavior as pathological when they behave in an extreme and unacceptable way, and have very powerful feelings that they cannot control.

You give 'Tommy Robinson' far too much credit if you think he excites 'powerful feelings' in me - I think you are confusing my 'obsession' with him, with his obsession with himself!

[tamborine]

AH we have 19weeks of silence from TR.

Will more gang rapists be prosecuted? One 11y girl, plied with vodka, was passed around 20men in ONE day by her pimp. Yet only 9 rapists have been prosecuted.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/men-rochdale-grooming-tariq-jail-13035428

[Baldric]

Thud!!!!

[tamborine]

Not another ladder baldric ;)

[Baldric]

Panic ye not, not allowed to play with ladders anymore unless they're in nylons ;o)

[andy-hughes]

tambourine - // AH we have 19weeks of silence from TR.

Will more gang rapists be prosecuted? One 11y girl, plied with vodka, was passed around 20men in ONE day by her pimp. Yet only 9 rapists have been prosecuted. //

I am unsure why you are advising me of that fact, or asking a question I cannot answer.

Do you have a point to make?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Just popped in to see if any of any of the champions of justice who are rejoicing at Robinson's reincarceration (and possible death in nick) have answered my question why Robinson has bee sent to prison, whereas this has never happened to journalists who have actually caused the collapse of a trial (rather than Robinson's mere "might have").

No luck so far, VE. Surely at least one of them retains a smidgin of honesty and moral integrity. Off to Diogenes to borrow a torch.

[andy-hughes]

vetuste - // … whereas this has never happened to journalists who have actually caused the collapse of a trial (rather than Robinson's mere "might have"). //

Do you have any specific instances you can link to, so we can discuss actual events rather than wooly 'possibles'?

[Deskdiary]

I find it astonishing there's nigh on 200 posts about this irrelevant moron and yet there's only a handful of posts about Vanessa George being released.

If there's a sad indictment of society then this has to be it.

[agchristie]

DD - Perhaps one of the reasons is that TR has both admirers and enemies thus provoking much reaction from both sides.

I don't see anyone supporting Vanessa George even if there were many more additions to that thread.

Both matters have issues which are very important in there own right albeit very different.