Scottish Drug Death Rate Highest In The Uk And The World

[DTCwordfan]

3 times that of England and the rest....more die of drugs than booze

What is the root cause for this? Surely, Nicola's Government is not a reason to revert to funny substances......

How should this be tackled?

[Peter Pedant]

// The supposedly ‘humorous’ part of this op and the responses to it are, to be honest, pretty sickening.//

o god take a rest will you?

what is causing it? well the supply is plentiful and so the drugs are cheap ( perfect supply and demand market )
the dossers around me are taking posh droogz like cocaine and heroin. a hit is as little as £10 - ( down from £40)

"Methadone is highly effective in treating opioid dependence, and it is also used as an analgesic for second-line management of chronic pain." - but can kill in relatively low doses - 30mg

all of the dead people have methadone on board but that doesnt mean to me that methadone is killing them

I dont know what the answer is

[Khandro]

They seem to be a rum lot up there, (are you listening jim?) take Glasgow alone, for nearly 100yrs, the majority of the people of Glasgow have elected socialists - if not Communists - as to represent them at work, and at local and national levels.
In return, the unions destroyed the ship-building industries that employed scores of thousands, and resisted change in the mining and steel-making industries that resulted in closure too.
The dreadful living conditions, standards of education, social and levels of social advancement and even life-expectancy remained low and static until relatively recently.
Yet they still vote Labour, or for the socialists of the Scottish National Party whose representatives have done nothing but line their own pockets, and keep the voters angry, aggrieved and poor; ideology gone mad, is it little wonder some feel the need for something extra to blur the pain of the failure of Socialism?

[Toorak]

PP - why should I take a rest.

We have a good idea what problem is

[vetuste_ennemi]

//...the supply is plentiful and so the drugs are cheap //

(Clock the hot totty in this super video, guys. But VE's ageing heart has already survived both video and the ICC final, and yours too will,I hope).

[Peter Pedant]

ok dont take a rest then

we hjave a god idea what the issue is
and no idea how to combat it with good results

after reading your posts - I still dont know what the answer is

[wolf63]

Khandro, you make Scotland out to be a terrible place to live. It's not.

I don't know the cause and I don't know the cure. I think that some cities have a bigger problem than others.

[EDDIE51]

It has been that way for Decades, probably centuries ! Scottish drinking law was always a LOT more relaxed than English drink law ! So more Scots took to drink !
Until 1968 (I think !) it was actually illegal to sell Alcohol in England and Wales on a Sunday ! People used to cross the border just to get a drink!

[Toorak]

Eddie - This has nothing to do with drinking laws!

[johnny.5]

hasn't the price of alcohol gone up and the price of drugs gone down ?

[goodgoalie]

Khandro: "The dreadful living conditions, standards of education, social and levels of social advancement and even life-expectancy remained low and static until relatively recently."

What utter tosh - take it from one born, raised and educated in Glasgow. I did not live in 'dreadful conditions'; I attended an excellent school; and Glasgow University - which I attended - is the fourth-oldest university in the English-speaking world. Have you ever been to Glasgow?

[david small]

By nature the Scot has a devil may care and rebellious nature. They are a fine but fierce people. They take risks, and devil take the consequences. An addictive temperament, and not fond of moderation. Quick to anger, slow to forgive. That said, they are the salt of the earth. Make a friend of a Scotsman you have a friend for life. If only they weren’t so stubborn.

[vetuste_ennemi]

// Scottish drinking law was always a LOT more relaxed than English drink law//

Not any more, Eddie. Since prurient and puritan Scottish nationalists like Salmand and Sturgeon have revived Calvinism (in its modern form which retains all the former bigotries except the renunciation of homosexuality and sexual permissiveness in general), Scottish law has increased taxes on alcohol (minimum "unit" price) and forbidden supermarket deals which might "encourage" excessive drinking.

I know this very well because I've written software (I'm talking market research) to evaluate the commercial benefits of selling alcohol cheaply, e.g. Bacardi 1 litre at £16 , two six packs for the price of one etc.

[EDDIE51]

Toorak, it has EVERYTHING to do with drinking laws ! Scotland had more restrictive drinking laws PLUS a much worse Alcohol dependance problem for many many years . People used to cross the border just to get a drink !! There were even organised bus trips across the border just to get a drink !

[Toorak]

Eddie - this is about dry related deaths - not alcohol

[Toorak]

Drug - not dry - autocorrect strikes again !

[douglas9401]

"Scottish drinking law was always a LOT more relaxed than English drink law ! So more Scots took to drink !"

"Toorak, it has EVERYTHING to do with drinking laws ! Scotland had more restrictive drinking laws"

Probably just leave those hanging for the congregation to digest.

[Toorak]

Exactly Douglas

[KARL]

This thread should be compulsory reading for everyone in Scotland, especially in the run-up to any independence referendum. As for me, I will point it out to those of my Scottish friends who say there is no such thing as condescension/disdain/superciliousness toward them south of the border.

[DTCwordfan]

Yes, I should have mentioned it was the States and not the World but then their lousy, racist Pres thinks that the States is the world.

Karl's remarks border on balderdash as there is concern to the announcement south of the border and the question of the root cause(s) really needs to be addressed. This thing about drinking laws, I am left somewhat flummoxed as when I was at Uni up there, pubs closed at 10pm and only hotel bars were open on Sunday and on shortened hours - mind you, a bottle of decent malt whisky from a booze shop was much cheaper in real terms than today.

It's an issue and really should be bundled up with this tsunami of crime and knives that a lot of UK cities are experiencing - policing levels really need to be looked at and more back on the beat in the communities - and I suspect the supply chains need to be tackled with more urgency - especially as it seems far to easy to get funny substances out there, wit what my daughter says of Leeds for example, not that she partakes.

And thanks Peter for your comment - there was no levity meant in what I wrote....slightly sardonic, yes, but I am not going to change that.

[Cloverjo]

Gg//take it from one born, raised and educated in Glasgow. I did not live in 'dreadful conditions'; I attended an excellent school; and Glasgow University//

Well, you were one of the lucky ones. There are good parts and terrible parts of every city. Thankfully, you ended up on the right side in Glasgow. Obviously, not everyone did.