War Cabinet To "deliver Brexit By Any Means Necessary".......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-vows-no-deal-brexit-by-any-means-necessary-55tjljkfw
Boris Johnson has set up a “war cabinet” to deliver Brexit “by any means necessary” by October 31 as a senior cabinet minister warned that there was “now a very real prospect” of no deal.
Nice turn around, up to now the HOQ as tried to thwart democracy by any means necessary. Will the EUSSR now accept we are prepared to leave with no deal? Will they let that happen?

[ichkeria]

Of course they will!
The only people who have stopped Brexit so far is Britain.
Aided by the votes of several members of the er .. “war cabinet “
(!)

[Zacs-Master]

Will they let that happen? It’s what they want! They’ve said as much.

[ToraToraTora]

EUSSR want no deal ZM? great then we are both happy, looking forward to 1st Nov then.

[mushroom25]

the house of commons won't permit "no deal".
the "only" deal has been rejected.
the EU won't renegotiate.
We're no further forward, all the politicos are away on their holidays and by the time they return there'll be barely a month to sort it.

[Zacs-Master]

Have you, seriously, only just tuned into that, Tora?

[ichkeria]

One of the great mysteries to me is the notion that saying we’d leave without a deal is any sort of bargaining chip. It’s never been that way, isn’t that way now, and never will.
Each extension has involved asking a reluctant Europe to let us stay.
The preparations for a no deal are an exercise in damage limitation. Aside from that, the government needs to do nothing. Nothing in relation to the EU anyway. They might have more of an issue with the parliament if it decides to “take back control” from the ministers who originally helped thwart Brexit on the first place.
Ben Travers is turning in his grave :-)

[New Judge]

Exactly, Ikky.

As I keep saying, Hell will freeze over before the Commons allow a No Deal Brexit. It's all very well for BoJo to shout from the rooftops but nothing has changed since the last time that was the "default". In fact, if anything, it's a worse situation for those of us wishing to see a proper departure because the few of her cronies that Mrs May was able to keep under control have now been let loose by being chucked out of the Cabinet. More than that, a majority of the new Cabinet members are Remainers and by October the PM will find that his Churchillian rhetoric cuts no ice with them. For all their faults, the Euromaniacs are not daft. They know this is the case (I expect they listen to the wireless) and they have no need to fear a No Deal happening.

Once again, I will be delighted to be proved wrong, but I suggest there will be no departure without a deal. Since the only deal on offer is totally unacceptable but is not negotiable I fail to see how BoJo's stirring words will achieve much. The time for those words was three years ago but he was knifed in the back by the man now charged with making sure everything is in place for No Deal.

[ToraToraTora]

mushroom: "the house of commons won't permit "no deal". - it's the default position, do nowt we are out.
ZM:"Have you, seriously, only just tuned into that, Tora? " - well TBF I did have my suspicions but when Treason May went to try and get a "deal" I assumed I must be wrong. If we knew all along that the EUSSR wanted no deal why did we bother?
ich: "One of the great mysteries to me is the notion that saying we’d leave without a deal is any sort of bargaining chip." -seriously? if you have the nuclear option the enemy must believe you are prepared to use it.

[Zacs-Master]

You should have ‘had your suspicions’ when you familiarised yourself with A50, Tora, where it clearly says that the leaving member state won’t be party to the negotiations. We were delusional if we thought the Golf Club captain would negotiate with Fred Bloggs who'd just resigned from the club owing £millions.

[douglas9401]

Did you mean 'unclear option'?

[ToraToraTora]

so just to be clear the EUSSR don't want a deal? So what was that "deal" they did with Mrs May?

[Zacs-Master]

It was a 585 page document which set out the principles of us leaving. I think you’re under the impression that the EU said ‘we want X’ and May went and got us X-20% or something.

[ichkeria]

Lol Tora: the “enemy” know perfectly well that we’re prepared to use it. The “it” in this case not being a Polaris missile aimed at Moscow, but a gun pointing resolutely downwards at a foot.

[ichkeria]

For once I’m hoping NJ is right :-)

It’s certainly a “war cabinet” aimed more at this side of the Channel ...

[youngmafbog]

if they deliver brexit by any means necessary then great.

If not then a GE and lets stick the quislings on the old rock and roll. Probably won't be so gobby then!

[Jackdaw33]

The only way BJ can bypass the HoC is by seeking a GE.This is a big gamble butwill put Labour on the back foot.

[ichkeria]

If as I suggested earlier Johnson is actually preparing for a GE on the assumption that there’ll be no deal before Oct 31 and no “no deal” either, then he’ll have to devise a way of extending the deadline without cancelling Brexit or looking too submissive to the EU by buying more time.
Presumably even the current cabinet is not nutty enough to call an election to ask for a mandate for no deal ... and let it happen by default during an election.

[gulliver1]

Why pick 31st Oct to leave , ?" The Day of The Witches". do the Brexiteers think that Thatcher will come Zooming down on her Broom Stick to help them . The Greatest Witch Ever. PMSL.

[naomi24]

Of course the EU want a deal. If they didn’t they’d have been happily waving us goodbye but they won’t do that. They like our money too much.

[gulliver1]

Gulp . talking about Witches, sorry.