Should She Be Sacked?

[Bobbisox1]

Khafi Kareem ,a Met police officer asked for leave to go to Nigeria ( to take part in their version of Big Brither ) her request was turned down but she went anyway, whilst there she had sex with another housemate live on TV
My opinion, Yes she should be sacked,if you ask your employer for time off and you take it anyway , isn't that gross misconduct ?

[dannyk13]

Woofie
http://www.met.police.uk/msctraining/documents/police_officer_professional_standards.pdf
Para 1;39

[Bobbisox1]

You're not trying hard enough in that case

[spathiphyllum]

Sorry if you feel I've insulted you Bobbi. It's nothing personal.

[Bobbisox1]

I stopped thinking 'personal' on here a long time ago and I guess I'm now ' thick skinned' :0)

[spathiphyllum]

yer dawgs cute

[retrocop]

but was permission required? Does anybody know if there is a rule that says that police must ask permission before being on TV as themselves, not representing their police force?

Yes there is a rule. My father appeared on one episode of a TV programme presented by Johnny Morris. It was called Animal Magic.
His police dog was the feature.Permission was sought and granted by the Commissioner of the Met Police. He was given permission because the inclusion showed the police and the performance of a highly trained animal ,used by them ,in a positive role to the public at large

[woofgang]

danny this? "1.39 Police officers abide by police regulations, force policies and lawful orders."

Because I don't see any relevance.

[spathiphyllum]

"Yes there is a rule."

What rule would that be... and where could one see this rule in writing?

[woofgang]

retro, that means there "was" a rule....also your father was appearing as a representative of the Police Force and this young lady was not.

[dannyk13]

woofie- 'force policies'. Apart from the Rules of Conduct each force will have its own policies on conduct. I know that the Met have as did the force I was in.

[spathiphyllum]

Not just that.. but the segment was specifically about a police animal.

[woofgang]

so do we know what the Met's policy is?

[dannyk13]

Ask Retro, he was in the Met.

[woofgang]

Again from my experience, policies which are not reasonable by the "standards of the day" are open to being questioned as part of the disciplinary process

[pixie374]

//She was a policewoman(introduced as such) being televised having sex.Spath would you be happy to see your daughter in such a position?//

Danny, I'm not sure whether you are objecting from a professional point of view (although she was not working or representing them)... or a controlling father point of view. Nobody wants to see their relatives in this position, that goes without saying. But she is an adult and surely can do what she likes in her free time, providing it is legal? X

[retrocop]

If that is addressed to me please address it accordingly.For the Met,which happens to be the subject of this errant officer,the relevant code of conduct is enshrined in ,surprise,surprise, 'The Discipline Code'
and a large Tome called Police Orders. It is restricted to members of the Police Service and if borrowed by officers to study for promotion it must be surrendered on retirement. A smaller version called the IB or Instruction Book is a large but smaller equivalent to PO and every officer is issued with it with monthly amendment pages. Again not for public perusal

[woofgang]

indeed he was but that's a "was" not an "is" Policies do change over time.

[woofgang]

fair enough Retro although IMO a little silly. I wonder what is so secret and dangerous that it cannot be made public knowledge. I am assuming that since you have now left the force, you have no more idea of what their actual policy on this than the rest of us do?

[woofgang]

Retro I was addressing the question to anybody who might have relevant current knowledge.

[dannyk13]

As some on here appear to be arguing for the sake of argument I will now leave you to it.