Should Notting Hill Carnival Police Face Dance Ban?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7389977/Notting-Hill-Carnival-police-face-dance-ban-dancing-theyll-able-watch-crowds.html

[retrocop]

TLC
Says it all doesn’t it?

[Bigbad]

Yes. Whilst in uniform they are at work and to join in with the dancing is unprofessional.

[andy-hughes]

TLC - // "but remember, if people don't do it, I won't point it out!"

why do you feel you have to point it out ?.. what a petty childish action //

I don't 'feel I have to point it out … ' it amuses me to do so, if it doesn't amuse you, feel free to ignore it, and any other of my posts that upset you.

[andy-hughes]

retrocop - // TLC
Says it all doesn’t it? //

It doesn't actually 'say' anything, it merely expresses an opinion.

// ... f it doesn't amuse you, feel free to ignore it, and any other of my posts that upset you. //

I keep saying that to you, but your rather pointless obsession with registering your personal animosity at any and every opportunity seems to get in the way of you doing so.

Never mind, we live in hope ...

[andy-hughes]

Bigbad - // Yes. Whilst in uniform they are at work and to join in with the dancing is unprofessional. //

As advised, no-one is suggesting a full-on choreographed work-out to YMCA, but a little levity never hurt anyone, it's just in the spirit of the day, that's all.

[Bigbad]

A little levity may not hurt anyone, and a smile and a chat is one thing, but a uniformed police officer who is on duty should act in a professional manner, and I don’t think dancing is acting in a professional manner.

[andy-hughes]

Bigbad - // … I don’t think dancing is acting in a professional manner. //

I think you have to look at the context here.

A policeman suddenly breaking into an extended dance routine while policing a football match would look, and indeed be, unprofessional.

But what we are talking about here, is maybe thirty seconds of an officer joining in and having a joke with revellers, nothing more than that, and I feel that is acceptable.

Like anything where 'professional behaviour' is involved, there is a matter of time and place, and context to be considered, rather than a one-size-fits-all rule to be applied everywhere all the time.

[Bigbad]

So, for the third time - I see it as unprofessional.
You see it your way, I’ll see it mine. You can come back as many times as you like and tell me you approve. I won’t change my mind.
So, the floor is all yours. I’ll leave you to it before I lose the will to live.

[Peter Pedant]

..Of course, aog. I don't pay them to cha cha cha.

but you expect them to - - quick step after the thieves !
ter daaah

I cant cram in my ;gyrating buxom beauties as a slap in the face for british culture

[Togo]

// there is a matter of time and place, and context to be considered,//

Yeeh right.....Do crabs think that fish can fly?

[THELOONYCORBYN]

"I don't 'feel I have to point it out … ' it amuses me to do so, if it doesn't amuse you, feel free to ignore it, and any other of my posts that upset you."

^ Triggered.....FYI the last thing people like you do on forums is upset me...it just puzzles me how you get to be mods..i suppose the little bit of power gives you a buzz...
Also puzzles me why on here unlike every other board/forum I use and have ever used Mods arent clearly flagged as such on here...hmmmm

[Mamyalynne]

If you have an issue with site moderation raise it with the Editor.

Then this thread can return to topic.

[Peter Pedant]

it is the first day of the Bank Holiday
boys and girls so play nicely with each other

save spitting biting and kicking for late Monday

everyone having fun in Manchester anyway - damned dhot

[Mamyalynne]

Have you been out for a boogie Peter? It is hot yes.

[vetuste_ennemi]

It depends how you define the role of a police force. I don't know what was in Peel's mind, but it may have been in the modern awful word "pro-active" in that you're less likely to commit criminal acts if you see lots of cops around.

A more modern "hot-line" approach might be to respond to criminal behaviour when it happens and investigate, arrest, prosecute and punish its perpetrators.

And a more modern approach still might be to understand and accept that the complexities of a multi-cultural society mean that wider objectives like social cohesion need to be considered in today's police policies when it comes to "enforcement". Shall we call it "rules of engagement"?

The pedantic application of traditional moral and legal norms might provoke an unhelpful reaction from some of our new communities whose values are different, but equally valid.

I don't think the Rwandan refugee should be judged by a 12th century statute created by Henry II. What was "Common" then is not necessarily common now.

Innit, Pet?

[Mamyalynne]

You've started calling people 'Pet' a lot lately - hardly heard it used for years.

[THELOONYCORBYN]

"If you have an issue with site moderation raise it with the Editor.

Then this thread can return to topic."

i dont recall asking for your opinions or advice......

[anotheoldgit]

Rockrose

/// Every year the same question and the same response! ///

You are wrong yet again, this is the first time that Police officers working at Notting Hill Carnival this weekend are facing a dance ban so they are not distracted and can 'keep a better eye on what's going on' around them.

[anotheoldgit]

Mamyalynne

/// You've started calling people 'Pet' a lot lately - hardly heard it used for years. ///

Obviously you never watch the TV series, Vera?

Can this thread now return to topic?

[anotheoldgit]

vetuste_ennemi
/// And a more modern approach still might be to understand and accept that the complexities of a multi-cultural society mean that wider objectives like social cohesion need to be considered in today's police policies when it comes to "enforcement". Shall we call it "rules of engagement"? ///

Better still, can we call it Kowtowing to the minorities?