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LadyCG "I'll give HRH the benefit of the doubt until there's undeniable, irrefutable, incontrovertible proof that he's lying.

Far worse an innocent man found guilty than a guilty man found innocent..."

I totally agree!!
No, bednobs, I don't mean it the other way round.

sorry, i read it as "far better ...."
Oh right, gotcha ;-)
It is alleged that Pr.A had sex with a seventeen year old and that is illegal in the USA.

There are further questions to be answered.

Hans
Is it? In all states?
Randy Andy ? , is he following in the footsteps of his Grand Father, keep it in the Family . Two very DOM. I also see that Fergie was accepting money from Epstein ????.
His grandfather was King George VI who never attracted even a hint of scandal.
He may not have witnessed criminal behaviour but he met Epstein after he’d been released from prison. That’s not a mistake - that’s a deliberate choice. Anyone with a modicum of sense would have distanced themselves from him. Andrew clearly doesn’t possess a medium of common sense.
Modicum not medium. Predictive text.
" Predictive Text " Not your fault ,of course.
Whatever he, or anyone else, says in his favour it will be dismissed because there are always people who want to believe the worst. How many of us know what our acquaintances get up to when we're not there? He is probably guilty of naivity and surrounding himself with the wrong people.
We know what they get up to when they get sent to prison for sex with a child and it's all over the papers zebo. How could he have failed to have known?
Maybe he thought the divine right of kings extended to princes.

High time he and we, as a country grew up and scrapped all this entitled garbage.
Paedos are very cunning, and Andy isn't the brightest Jewel in the Crown, so we should perhaps have some sympathy with his predicament.
If Prince Andrew is 'guilty' of anything, it seems to centre around boorish behaviour, insensitivity, freeloading, and a complete inability to see that actions have consequences.

None of those are crimes in the legal sense, but they point to a man who has never had to think for himself, but is still surrounded by the wrong people doing his thinking for him.

This will blow over, he'd have been better advised to say absolutely nothing, and allow the Palace machine to protect him, as it does the rest.
I can only reiterate my regret that I was mistaken to think that what I thought I knew of him was evidently not the real person

the person who wrote that gibberish should be looking for other employment.

Anywy, Epstein pleaded guilty to procuring an underage girl for prostitution and spent time "behind bars" - I use quote marks because they were far too nice to actually lock his cell door. After he got out, He and Andrew were photographed walking in Central Park together. The New York Post headlined it "The Prince and the Perv".

But apparently he never thought to ask Epstein what he'd been jailed for? Right.
jno - I think we would agree that evidence is available in large chunks to demonstrate that forward thinking, and indeed thinking at all, does not feature prominently in the Prince's thought processes.

What is more worrying is that, unlike you or I, there is a team of probably well-paid people whose sole task in life is to keep the Prince's foot out of his mouth as much as possible, notwithstanding that given whom they are working with, that is an impossible task.

Even so, there are some situations that you would imagine would be front and centre in the minds of the damage-limitation personnel, and pretty near the top of that list would include ensuring that his Highness does not consort with convicted paedophiles - preferably not in private, and definitely not in public.

Since it is perfectly possible that one of these 'protectors' is the same one who wrote that cringingly obtuse garbage that you kindly quoted, I would entirely agree - they should be looking for another job, preferably one which does not involved them being put in charge of anybody or anything ever again.

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