ChatterBank1 min ago
Brexit - What If?
The PM swallows his pride, sends the extension request to Brussels and it's refused (as one French minister has opined). What then?
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Whether or not there is any extension / unity government or whatever if any deal that is acceptable to the EU cannot get approval in Parliament & MPs in their wisdom will not countenance a no-deal then the only alternative is to scrap Brexit & remain in the EU. Just revoke A50 and avoid any further messing about with a "People's Vote" or whatever. In that case the...
09:44 Sat 07th Sep 2019
Nobody is deliberately thwarting democracy, except possibly those who are proposing deliberately to ignore the law.
If you want to deliver Brexit, then a democratic means is still open to you. Vote for MPs who believe in it. Then you'll get what you want. But until then, the present lot are entitled to exercise their best judgement as they see fit, and block a path forward that they see as damaging for the country. Refusing to countenance a No Deal Brexit is not thwarting democracy, not even remotely.
If you want to deliver Brexit, then a democratic means is still open to you. Vote for MPs who believe in it. Then you'll get what you want. But until then, the present lot are entitled to exercise their best judgement as they see fit, and block a path forward that they see as damaging for the country. Refusing to countenance a No Deal Brexit is not thwarting democracy, not even remotely.
Jim, //the present lot are entitled to exercise their best judgement as they see fit, and block a path forward that they see as damaging for the country.//
The present lot are, like you, overriding the wishes of the majority of the electorate by saying that they know best – and in that arrogant process they are trashing something that all who live in a free society should hold dear…. democracy. Shame on the lot of them.
//Refusing to countenance a No Deal Brexit is not thwarting democracy, not even remotely.//
You keep telling yourself that.
The present lot are, like you, overriding the wishes of the majority of the electorate by saying that they know best – and in that arrogant process they are trashing something that all who live in a free society should hold dear…. democracy. Shame on the lot of them.
//Refusing to countenance a No Deal Brexit is not thwarting democracy, not even remotely.//
You keep telling yourself that.
Like I say, MPs who don't want a No Deal are using their best judgement. Hold them to account for it if you don't like it. That's how democracy works. Forcing somebody to do something they think is bad for their country and their constituents, on the other hand, is not. And expecting a politician to do something they see as a mistake is, at the very least, a strange expectation.
Brexit has exposed a great deal of problems in this country, but democracy will survive this and perhaps even emerge stronger for it -- and I expect that to be true no matter what the outcome.
Brexit has exposed a great deal of problems in this country, but democracy will survive this and perhaps even emerge stronger for it -- and I expect that to be true no matter what the outcome.
The very nature of the democratic process in this country is about giving MPs a mandate to exercise *their* judgement, and then holding them to account at the end of it.
The 2016 referendum is no exception to this, either. MPs were instructed to leave the EU, but the details and implementation were still left to them. They are entitled to reject a given approach if they feel it's not in the best interests of the country.
I know I've said this like 100 billion times before but it still bears repeating.
The 2016 referendum is no exception to this, either. MPs were instructed to leave the EU, but the details and implementation were still left to them. They are entitled to reject a given approach if they feel it's not in the best interests of the country.
I know I've said this like 100 billion times before but it still bears repeating.
