Turkey Is Threatening To "open The Gates" To Europe, Another Good Reason For Us To Leave The Eu?

[anotheoldgit]

https://europe.infowars.com/turkey-threatens-to-open-the-gates-flood-europe-with-migrants/

[jim360]

A few details that the headline overlooks:

1. Turkey is straining under the weight of its own immgration crisis;
2. Turkey is therefore asking for support to deal with that crisis;
3. Leaving with the EU would have literally nothing to do with this.

[Ken4155]

So Brexit would stop them coming over here, would it? Hows'that work then?

[fender62]

meanwhile turkey buys russian s-400 missiles $2.5 billion (€2.2 billion) so they are not skint.

[Spicerack]

Do you expect every detail of a story to be in the headline now?

[Jackdaw33]

//1. Turkey is straining under the weight of its own immgration crisis;
2. Turkey is therefore asking for support to deal with that crisis;\\


What a load of Istan Bull!

[Gromit]

Here is a more reliable report

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49599297

[jim360]

No, but I expect the headline to reflect the context far better. Turkey's "threat" is better interpreted as a statement of what should be obvious: Turkey cannot be reasonably expected to sustain what is, by this point, the population of another entire country without some aid from elsewhere. So, if that support is not forthcoming -- and if sending the migrants back whence they came is unreasonable -- then where else can they go?

[jim360]

Why do you say so, Jackdaw? The Syrian Civil War has prompted something in the region of 3.5 million Syrians to flee the country, and most of them end up in Turkey.

[Jackdaw33]

They can send them wherever they like in Europe as long as they don't end up here.

[jim360]

That's a long distance away from "Istan Bull" though, isn't it?

[fender62]

wonder why none of the gulf countries took in any fleeing migrants
or sent planes to airlift them out, arab sheiks buy super yachts..
but nothing for there so called fellow muslims.

[Spicerack]

1. Turkey is straining under the weight of its own immgration crisis;
Wrong, we're straining under the weight of it. Turkey are running a gimmegrants for immigrants scheme.
2. Turkey is therefore asking for support to deal with that crisis;
Wrong, Turkey is demanding extra money to deal with the new influx of Islamists that they are inviting in.
3. Leaving with the EU would have literally nothing to do with this.
Wrong. We wouldn't be paying anymore.

[Bazile]

//They can send them wherever they like in Europe as long as they don't end up here.//

Yeah , just get them to sign an agreement that they will not try to enter the UK

[jim360]

Lol, the idea that Turkey is welcoming migrants to get extra money. How anyone can make that suggestion with a straight face...

The cost of sustaining these migrant camps has run well into the billions of dollars. Turkey is a smaller economy than we are. It's not sustainable. Of course they want and need aid. But, more to the point: the refugees themselves need aid.

[Gromit]

To cut a long story short, the EU outsourced the protection of its border to Turkey.
Before the 2016 deal refugees were flooding into the EU through Greece. Turkey kindly agreed (for €s) to police a safe zone in Norther Syria, which would mean the refugees would be safe and didn’t need to ‘invade’ the EU.
But the Turks aren’t getting much help, and have only been given half the money they were promised. So they are saying, they might not bother, and just let the refugees stream into the EU. Turkey do not want these people either.
Being in or out of the EU will not make the slightest bit of difference. We did not sign up to the Schengen Area, so we can stop them (if we can catch them).

// Under a 2016 agreement with the EU, Turkey imposed stronger controls to curb the flow of migrants and refugees to Europe.
The deal involved an EU pledge to provide €6bn (£5.4bn; $6.6bn) in aid to Turkey to house Syrian refugees.
Mr Erdogan complained that only €3bn of that had arrived so far //

[retrocop]

That's how the Arab Spring works. Opposing Muslims and their war lords bomb the hell out of each other, destroy their infrastructure and we have to pay them to rebuild their own doing.
We are Mugs to be in the EU and to support staying in it. Always the soft touch. Anybody left in the UK government to get our buiding projects for our needy underway?

[jim360]

There's also something disgustingly cynical and small-minded in arguing that a humanitarian crisis is not a problem as long as it's on the other side of the English Channel.

[johnny.5]

they always start to increase in size at this time of year

[Gromit]

retrocop
// That's how the Arab Spring works. Opposing Muslims and their war lords bomb the hell out of each other //

That is not quite what happened though. Syria has a Dictator sympathetic to Russia and when Muslim fanatics from Iraq (one of our previous messes) decided to expand their Caliphate to Syria, the West supported them with cash, training and airpower. The resulting civil war created these refugees, and the war has our finger prints all over it.

[Old_Geezer]

Seems to me that Turkey was morally obliged to prevent folk journeying to where they had no permission, from their country. The €s was an extra incentive, and whilst those who promised cash should provide it, it's a poor excuse for not doing what one should anyway. Once in a safe country any crisis should no longer exist. However I agree aid to those on the front line stopping further dispersion is a reasonable request. Can't be easy coping well.