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Day One Of Proroguing
Boris Johnson has made no attempt to go to Brussels.
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it normally shuts this time of year anyway, hes added an extra 3 or 4 days on to it.
2017 and 2018 roundabout this time.
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2017 and 2018 roundabout this time.
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The time of the party conferences is recess, not a suspension.
There is a bit of a difference.
MPs could have arranged to work during that recess, and indeed were planning to. So the argument that “it’s just a few days” is misleading. They’ve taken 5 weeks out for something that conventionally gets a few days.
There is a bit of a difference.
MPs could have arranged to work during that recess, and indeed were planning to. So the argument that “it’s just a few days” is misleading. They’ve taken 5 weeks out for something that conventionally gets a few days.
//MPs could have arranged to work during that recess, and indeed were planning to.//
Really/ And what, pray tell, would they have done during this time (however long it might be) that they haven't managed to do in the last three years? They've completed their latest episode of obfuscation and obstruction. There's nothing for them to do now until they repeat the performance towards the end of January.
//Boris Johnson has made no attempt to go to Brussels.//
Why on Earth should he go there? There's nothing to discuss. Their idea of the UK "leaving" is to keep us confined to their Customs Union and Single Market and keep us under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. Mr Johnson's idea of us leaving is somewhat different an the Euromaniacs have said that their plan is not up for debate. He can save the fare.
Really/ And what, pray tell, would they have done during this time (however long it might be) that they haven't managed to do in the last three years? They've completed their latest episode of obfuscation and obstruction. There's nothing for them to do now until they repeat the performance towards the end of January.
//Boris Johnson has made no attempt to go to Brussels.//
Why on Earth should he go there? There's nothing to discuss. Their idea of the UK "leaving" is to keep us confined to their Customs Union and Single Market and keep us under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. Mr Johnson's idea of us leaving is somewhat different an the Euromaniacs have said that their plan is not up for debate. He can save the fare.
Well at least try and get the UK a deal.
His side kick is spouting about rich remainers.
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His side kick is spouting about rich remainers.
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And rich they are. They have been bank rolling remain from day one all the while conning donations out of small donors that are gullible remain voters.
However as NJ says, what’s the point of trying to negotiate? They’ve had three years of failure. Labour would negotiate us back in or at best (or is that worst) tied like a vanquished nation on the peripheral with no say.
The opposition on one hand shout the EU have said they will not negotiate but on the other promise a better deal. How does that work?
Run the clock down to the end of prerogative. Saunter over to Brussels and maybe saunter back a couple of days later and say.. No. won’t ask for an extension. Parliament (or whoever takes him to court) that could take three, four days. BJ says no I’m going to appeal. That takes three or four days (obviously much much quicker than the average joe would take to appeal etc.). That takes up to about 25th or 26th depending on weekend working and suchlike. Ping pong back and forth a couple of times and bobs your uncle and we are out.
However as NJ says, what’s the point of trying to negotiate? They’ve had three years of failure. Labour would negotiate us back in or at best (or is that worst) tied like a vanquished nation on the peripheral with no say.
The opposition on one hand shout the EU have said they will not negotiate but on the other promise a better deal. How does that work?
Run the clock down to the end of prerogative. Saunter over to Brussels and maybe saunter back a couple of days later and say.. No. won’t ask for an extension. Parliament (or whoever takes him to court) that could take three, four days. BJ says no I’m going to appeal. That takes three or four days (obviously much much quicker than the average joe would take to appeal etc.). That takes up to about 25th or 26th depending on weekend working and suchlike. Ping pong back and forth a couple of times and bobs your uncle and we are out.
//The point being, as I’m sure you realise, that this time could, and almost certainly would, have been used by MPs.//
To do what? Endlessly drone on about what they don't want and won't agree to? It achieves nothing and the country has had enough of it.
//I heard some Tory MPs complain yesterday that there had not been adequate time to scrutinise the anti No Deal Bill.//
No time to scrutinise it? It comprises five sections, you can fit it onto two pages of A4, it contains less than 1,500 words (which includes 175 words which make up the letter the PM has been ordered to send to Brussels) and you can read it in the time it takes you to drink a cup of tea. How much time do they need to "scrutinise" it? If MPs were unsure of its content (which I don't believe any of them were) they should not have voted for it.
To do what? Endlessly drone on about what they don't want and won't agree to? It achieves nothing and the country has had enough of it.
//I heard some Tory MPs complain yesterday that there had not been adequate time to scrutinise the anti No Deal Bill.//
No time to scrutinise it? It comprises five sections, you can fit it onto two pages of A4, it contains less than 1,500 words (which includes 175 words which make up the letter the PM has been ordered to send to Brussels) and you can read it in the time it takes you to drink a cup of tea. How much time do they need to "scrutinise" it? If MPs were unsure of its content (which I don't believe any of them were) they should not have voted for it.
//Boris Johnson has made no attempt to go to Brussels.//
Good. Not like treason May may then, clutching her handbag and determined to flaunt her latest pair of shoes but being ignored anyway.
Sorry to divert Sharon but I have something that the Judge might wish to peruse. It is a letter written to Lord Blackheath after his unreported(by the main stream media) statement in the Upper House. I have only read it through once it will have a closer look tomorrow. If Judge is not inclined to read it I understand.
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Good. Not like treason May may then, clutching her handbag and determined to flaunt her latest pair of shoes but being ignored anyway.
Sorry to divert Sharon but I have something that the Judge might wish to peruse. It is a letter written to Lord Blackheath after his unreported(by the main stream media) statement in the Upper House. I have only read it through once it will have a closer look tomorrow. If Judge is not inclined to read it I understand.
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The whole thing is utterly disgusting - any Conservatives who voted for Boris in the Leadership campaign should resign as he has totally demeaned his office and our country with his lies, racism, sexism and extremism.
I'm 21 and was recently watching a documentary by Michael Moore where he said that todays young generation are the generation that the generation before them, and the generation before them don't deserve. I agree - everyone I know of my age wants to live in a modern multicultural country as part of the EU. Not this backwards Brexit nonsense. I have faith whatever happens now give it 10 years we can start to take control and undo the horrors that we have inherited. There will be no place for some of these dreadful characters like Boris and Farage then.
I'm 21 and was recently watching a documentary by Michael Moore where he said that todays young generation are the generation that the generation before them, and the generation before them don't deserve. I agree - everyone I know of my age wants to live in a modern multicultural country as part of the EU. Not this backwards Brexit nonsense. I have faith whatever happens now give it 10 years we can start to take control and undo the horrors that we have inherited. There will be no place for some of these dreadful characters like Boris and Farage then.
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