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I've Said It All Along...put The Backstop In The North Channel

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DTCwordfan | 11:27 Wed 11th Sep 2019 | News
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What Boris has been discussing with Ireland and the DUMPs.

Put the Backstop in the North Channel

More control over shipped goods
Aircraft - well today we have to show ID so what's the difference?
Potentially a bridge.causeway to be built - okay its 21 miles, relatively deep in the middle, old bombs and munitions but that's surely insumountable, Boris could cancel HS2 and get better returns on the investment.
Beef up Stormont (once they are back to work) to have some more executive power and give them credibility in front of Dublin and one economic zone.
Makes a hell of a lot of sense

So why all the shenanigans and posturing - just get on with it, Boris (the opposition), Northern Ireland, Dublin and the EU wallahs? Then give us all a rest from bloody Brexit.

Front page of the D-Tel, even more positive than this https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/11/boris-johnsons-all-ireland-backstop-could-answer-wont-easy/
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TonyAV,
You are right.
Switzerland is a member of the European Free Trade Association (EFTA), and took part in negotiating the European Economic Area (EEA) agreement with the European Union. It signed up to Schengen, BUT IS NOT A MEMBER Of THE EU.
We too could do this, but the hard Brexiteers will not accept membership of any of those organisations, even though we could and not be an EU member.
tony, the EUSSR have weaponised the Irish issue. There are thousands of miles of border elsewhere that they have no problem with. Switzerland, Norway, Russia etc but only the Ireland one is a problem, funny that!
TTT,
The EU don’t have a problem with its border with Russia?

You have been in Wetherspoons too long mate.
How many border crossing points are there in those countries compared to the hundreds in Ulster/ROI?
"Switzerland is surrounded by five EU countries, why no hard borders there ?"

Because Switzerland is in the single market and the Schengen zone. Would that work for you?

The situation with EU:Swiss relations is interesting and should provide a stark warning to the UK post Brexit.

Switzerland participates in the Single Market and Customs Union (though with a number of significant exceptions) but is not party to the Lisbon Treaty. Instead its relationship with the EU is founded on a number of bilateral agreements and ten principle treaties. These ten cover things such as free movement, air traffic, road traffic, asylum, agriculture and science. The EU insisted that these were "guillotine" agreements. That is to say neither side can withdraw from one without the others become redundant as well.

Switzerland also has over 200 individual trade agreements with the EU. However, since 2009, when the Lisbon Treaty came into force, the EU has refused to negotiate any further treaties or agreements with Switzerland and instead is pressing for it to become a full member of the European Economic Area (EEA). The Swiss constitution requires a referendum to be held to agree this and the majority of the Swiss electorate is opposed to such a move.

Since 2014 the EU and Switzerland have held talks to construct an "accord" which will satisfy the EU's requirement for Switzerland to become more closely aligned with the EU but the Swiss government could find no meaningful compromise which would satisfy the EU's demands and be acceptable to their electorate.

Accepting the accord is considered by the EU to be necessary to allow Swiss access to new fields of the European single market but they have said that no further compromise on the text of the proposed accord would be possible. (Sound familiar?) As a result, Brussels did not extend its stock market equivalence to the Swiss stock exchange because of this breakdown of Swiss-EU negotiations, and as from November 2018 a counter-measure was implemented, limiting the future exchange of most EU-traded Swiss stocks to the Swiss Exchange in Zurich.

The UK should read the detail behind this before it embarks on what will probably be either a fruitless search for a trade agreement post-Brexit or be prepared to succumb once again to EU control. The "Political Declaration" which accompanies Mrs May's withdrawal agreement lays the foundation for "negotiations" such as Switzerland has seen over the past four or five years. Be warned that the EU does not negotiate.

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