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I've Said It All Along...put The Backstop In The North Channel
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What Boris has been discussing with Ireland and the DUMPs.
Put the Backstop in the North Channel
More control over shipped goods
Aircraft - well today we have to show ID so what's the difference?
Potentially a bridge.causeway to be built - okay its 21 miles, relatively deep in the middle, old bombs and munitions but that's surely insumountable, Boris could cancel HS2 and get better returns on the investment.
Beef up Stormont (once they are back to work) to have some more executive power and give them credibility in front of Dublin and one economic zone.
Makes a hell of a lot of sense
So why all the shenanigans and posturing - just get on with it, Boris (the opposition), Northern Ireland, Dublin and the EU wallahs? Then give us all a rest from bloody Brexit.
Front page of the D-Tel, even more positive than this https:/
Put the Backstop in the North Channel
More control over shipped goods
Aircraft - well today we have to show ID so what's the difference?
Potentially a bridge.causeway to be built - okay its 21 miles, relatively deep in the middle, old bombs and munitions but that's surely insumountable, Boris could cancel HS2 and get better returns on the investment.
Beef up Stormont (once they are back to work) to have some more executive power and give them credibility in front of Dublin and one economic zone.
Makes a hell of a lot of sense
So why all the shenanigans and posturing - just get on with it, Boris (the opposition), Northern Ireland, Dublin and the EU wallahs? Then give us all a rest from bloody Brexit.
Front page of the D-Tel, even more positive than this https:/
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This has been touted before: I couldn’t see the point of it then and I still don’t.
Aside from the unfeasibility of a hideous bridge from the North Antrim coast to the Mull of Kintyre, I don’t see how it solves the political issue. What’s the difference between a border in the Irish Sea and one in the North Channel.
And customs checks halfway across a monstrously long land bridge??
Aside from the unfeasibility of a hideous bridge from the North Antrim coast to the Mull of Kintyre, I don’t see how it solves the political issue. What’s the difference between a border in the Irish Sea and one in the North Channel.
And customs checks halfway across a monstrously long land bridge??
The Republic and Northern Ireland could agree to a localised customs Union. Nothing to do with the EU but an island agreement.
It would just agree to ignore borders and tariffs and carry on as if Brexit hadn’t happened.
If we do have a hard border, the tariffs on either side will be very similar, so it will be pointless anyway.
It would just agree to ignore borders and tariffs and carry on as if Brexit hadn’t happened.
If we do have a hard border, the tariffs on either side will be very similar, so it will be pointless anyway.
//The Republic and Northern Ireland could agree to a localised customs Union.//
Could they? I didn't know customs and tariff arrangements were a devolved matter (even if NI had a functioning devolved government).
I agree with OG. There is no reason why a foreign supranational political organisation should insist on a customs barrier to separate one part of a sovereign nation from the rest of it.
Could they? I didn't know customs and tariff arrangements were a devolved matter (even if NI had a functioning devolved government).
I agree with OG. There is no reason why a foreign supranational political organisation should insist on a customs barrier to separate one part of a sovereign nation from the rest of it.
The hard border issue was always yet another contrivance by the EU to bully Britain. With good will on all sides this ought not have been an issue.
Quite disgusting that the Taoseach whose country is potentially the greatest loser in all this prefers to stand brdide big brother Tisk and sneer at his biggest trading partner.
Any Project Fear advocate recocgnise that argument?
Quite disgusting that the Taoseach whose country is potentially the greatest loser in all this prefers to stand brdide big brother Tisk and sneer at his biggest trading partner.
Any Project Fear advocate recocgnise that argument?
VE,
We were told that on leaving the EU we could again take control of our borders.
And then when it looks like we are leaving, the British authorities are running away defending our only land border with a foreign country.
And their only reason for not enforcing the border is ‘it is too difficult’.
Before the UK and Ireland joined the EU, we had an open border (apart from during the troubles).
Restoring NI devolved Government would help, but even that is proving very difficult.
Clinton and Mitchel were influential it getting all parties to agree to the Good Friday Agreement. Unfortunately, the present administration in the States are not up to a similar task.
We were told that on leaving the EU we could again take control of our borders.
And then when it looks like we are leaving, the British authorities are running away defending our only land border with a foreign country.
And their only reason for not enforcing the border is ‘it is too difficult’.
Before the UK and Ireland joined the EU, we had an open border (apart from during the troubles).
Restoring NI devolved Government would help, but even that is proving very difficult.
Clinton and Mitchel were influential it getting all parties to agree to the Good Friday Agreement. Unfortunately, the present administration in the States are not up to a similar task.
//And then when it looks like we are leaving, the British authorities are running away defending our only land border with a foreign country.
And their only reason for not enforcing the border is ‘it is too difficult’.//
No it isn't. The answer is as you've gone on to say:
//Before the UK and Ireland joined the EU, we had an open border (apart from during the troubles).//
Apart from during the Troubles there has not been an effective border in Ireland for 100 years. Any border arrangements that were in place were of our choosing and usually in agreement with Ireland. Restoring control of our borders means enforcing them as we choose and the UK does not choose to enforce border controls (from south to north) in Ireland. What Ireland and their EU masters intend to do in the opposite direction is their affair. In fact, if they told the truth, they have no intention of installing a hard border either, making the matter a non-issue which has simply been weaponised by the EU in an attempt to keep us bound to their protectionist institutions.
And their only reason for not enforcing the border is ‘it is too difficult’.//
No it isn't. The answer is as you've gone on to say:
//Before the UK and Ireland joined the EU, we had an open border (apart from during the troubles).//
Apart from during the Troubles there has not been an effective border in Ireland for 100 years. Any border arrangements that were in place were of our choosing and usually in agreement with Ireland. Restoring control of our borders means enforcing them as we choose and the UK does not choose to enforce border controls (from south to north) in Ireland. What Ireland and their EU masters intend to do in the opposite direction is their affair. In fact, if they told the truth, they have no intention of installing a hard border either, making the matter a non-issue which has simply been weaponised by the EU in an attempt to keep us bound to their protectionist institutions.
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