Can Boris Do It?

[Khandro]

Restaurant lunch with Junker (sounds boozy) on Monday. Supreme court will throw out this proroguing nonsense challenge on Tuesday? The pound is shooting up. Everything's going tickety-boo, wouldn't you say?

[Bigbad]

Tickety-boo?
I wish I had your confidence, Khandro.

All the focus seems to be on the backstop, as if it’s the only crappy part of Mrs. May’s deal.
I do hope he doesn’t sort out the backstop, accept the rest and claim a victory.

[Baldric]

It is common practice to offer a link to the news article you would like to discuss.

[Bigbad]

Common practice, but not compulsory, but here’s the link for you anyway, Baldric, with just a small mention: "I'm seeing [Mr Juncker and Mr Barnier] on Monday and we will talk about the ideas that we've been working on and we will see where we get."
He added: "I would say I'm cautiously optimistic."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49690613

[Gromit]

Any resemblance between this chart of the the decline of the pound, and Mogg’s posture in Parliament last week, is purely coincidental.

https://ichef-bbci-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/695/cpsprodpb/C45D/production/_108596205_gbp.usdollar-nc.png

You don’t half come out with some carp sometimes Khandro.

[Old_Geezer]

Do what ? Get a decent deal ? I doubt it.
Manage to get to Halloween without being forced to mess up the nation on the antidemocrats orders ? Unsure, have to see.

[naomi24]

I've no idea where this is going.

[jourdain2]

Like naomi, I can no longer see where things might go - we are in Alice-in-Wonderland. The pound is fairly steady and has been (up or down around the usual small points) sticking fairly well. My sister just wishes for some decisions to be made, it is the fluidity which is threatening her garage. Businesses will thrive as long as they know the conditions in which they have to work.

[cashier]

I think he will renege. He will change one minor part of T.M's deal, and think he can fool everyone by saying he's negotiated a 'better' deal.

[ichkeria]

Suppose there was a scenario where a No Deal Brexit was unavoidable if parliament failed to vote on a deal of some sort.
To date that has never been the case.
“Keeping No Deal on the table” is supposedly a way of twisting the EU’s arm, but in reality the only arm that can be twisted is that of MPs in the London.
If there was a vote in Parliament “Deal or No Deal” that would surely force it. We would assuredly leave with a deal.

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "Suppose there was a scenario where a No Deal Brexit was unavoidable if parliament failed to vote on a deal of some sort.
To date that has never been the case. " - that has been the case all along, no deal can only be avoided 2 ways, revoke A50 or Do a deal. It can be delayed which is what the latest VBQC shenanigans are about.

[ichkeria]

There has never been a scenario where No Deal has been a stone cold certainty in default of a deal. Despite what Article 50 says. Because there can be delays, referenda, revocation of Article 50 etc.
If there had been, we’d have left by now because we are the ones terrified of No Deal, not the EU.
In such a scenario voting for a deal would be a no brainer.
Unless you actually wanted No Deal of course.
As I say ...

[ichkeria]

Which ought to mean, taking that thought further, that “No Deal” can never happen.
If the plane really is going to hit the ground, a last minute vote can get a deal thought Parliament.

[douglas9401]

Apparently not going for a decent deal but a decent meal.

While it's still cheap.

[Togo]

No brainer....any version of Treason May's version of an agreement is poison to the majority of the British voters........it was even rejected 3 times in a remainiac dominated house of commotions. If Boris does not tell the drunker Junker to hiss poff and find another way to placate the sheeple of the EUSSR then he is toast. If he comes back with "a little piece of paper" then Nigel will decimate the Tory party at the next G.E.
To keep his promise to the British people he must get a new deal from Europe to satisfy Parliament, or else leave the EUSSR without a deal. I know what I prefer.......do you?

[ToraToraTora]

ne deal is the only way to actually get a deal, after we've gone.

[Gromit]

// If there was a vote in Parliament “Deal or No Deal” that would surely force it. We would assuredly leave with a deal. //

If only Parliament hadn’t have been prorogued!!! How did the error happen :-/

[Old_Geezer]

Thank Gawd it was then. No one wants a deal that's worse than no-deal.

[Togo]

// If there was a vote in Parliament “Deal or No Deal” that would surely force it. We would assuredly leave with a deal. //

Guess what? If there was a vote amongst the British populace Deal or No Deal, then No Deal would assuredly be the course of action. We have been there though and it hasn't happened. The question that needs to be on the minds of the remainiacs is what actually happens if they thwart the combined will of the British people. Can you imagine the coming s c h i t storm if we are temporarily manacled to the EUSSR? I can.

[douglas9401]

Go back to your constituencies and prepare for ditch death.

[Togo]

The dead are determined by who digs the ditch Douglas, as you well know. The remainiacs have been skating over the open field democratic process for 3 years and are now entering sodden ground. The swamp has been drained at one end of the arena into deep trenches that are now filled with stagnant sewage of their own making. Knowing no better they will avalanche into the mire and drown, or be suffocated by their own gleeful on rushers. But just in case any climb out, the mace and halberd is ready on the other side. (^_*)