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Who Is The Most Hated Person In The Uk?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.sanmac - // "I think the notion of stirring up animosity is pointless and unhelpful." opines the resident ah who spews forth lashings of animosity and antagonism into every thread regarding Tommy Robinson! //
I don't 'spew forth' anything - I react to posts about 'Tommy Robinson' because he is an attention-seeking idiot, and deserves it, but I have never said that I hate him, because I don't.
That is not the same as actively looking to start a debate about 'hating' individuals, which is negative and pointless
I don't 'spew forth' anything - I react to posts about 'Tommy Robinson' because he is an attention-seeking idiot, and deserves it, but I have never said that I hate him, because I don't.
That is not the same as actively looking to start a debate about 'hating' individuals, which is negative and pointless
teacake - // 16.33, that said, you can't truly vote on something you don't understand, or have any knowledge of what may be the outcome of such a vote. //
Thanks for insulting my intelligence.
I 'truly voted' to leave the EU and knew exactly why I was voting, and nothing has changed my mind.
I find the notion that I am too stupid to understand what I was voting for to be arrogant and without merit.
Thanks for insulting my intelligence.
I 'truly voted' to leave the EU and knew exactly why I was voting, and nothing has changed my mind.
I find the notion that I am too stupid to understand what I was voting for to be arrogant and without merit.
Not much point in calling for the UK to have left in June 2018 -- that is, to have immediately triggered Notification under Article 50 -- when it's now been well-established that to do so would have been unlawful. Not to mention unwise, when there was no plan for the vote going the way it did.
And therein lies the reason Cameron is to blame for this mess. He triggered a referendum on false pretences -- the main reasons were to see off the threat of Farage, kill Euroscepticism in the Tory Party, and win the 2015 election, and in two of these at least he was spectacularly unsuccessful. Then he refused to plan for either outcome. Then, when he lost that referendum, he jumped ship and left other people to work out what should happen afterwards.
If the referendum had been called honestly, then there would have been a proper plan in place for implementing the outcome for either result. And, to address the point in my first paragraph, the power to give notice under Article 50 would have been explicitly given to government when passing the Referendum Act, which would have sorted out some of the legal mess that resulted.
I could go on. But everything else Cameron achieved, for good or ill, as PM will be buried by his decision to call this referendum and then lose it.
And therein lies the reason Cameron is to blame for this mess. He triggered a referendum on false pretences -- the main reasons were to see off the threat of Farage, kill Euroscepticism in the Tory Party, and win the 2015 election, and in two of these at least he was spectacularly unsuccessful. Then he refused to plan for either outcome. Then, when he lost that referendum, he jumped ship and left other people to work out what should happen afterwards.
If the referendum had been called honestly, then there would have been a proper plan in place for implementing the outcome for either result. And, to address the point in my first paragraph, the power to give notice under Article 50 would have been explicitly given to government when passing the Referendum Act, which would have sorted out some of the legal mess that resulted.
I could go on. But everything else Cameron achieved, for good or ill, as PM will be buried by his decision to call this referendum and then lose it.
AH, Saying //I think the notion of stirring up animosity is pointless and unhelpful// - and then saying // I react to posts about 'Tommy Robinson' because he is an attention-seeking idiot, and deserves it// is irrational. Where Tommy Robinson is concerned you stir up animosity. Therefore your original statement is false.
I can't see how the referendum can be said to have been called on false pretences. It was called to get the nation's opinion and deliver the outcome. The result may not have been what Cameron was hoping for and expecting but it was always a possibility.
It would have been nice to know exactly how to progess an exit but it was never going to make sense spending loads of resources trying to put that together, especially when it hadn't been done before and much would need to be managed as it occurred. Hardly surprising one opted to discover the decision first.
But that was fine, or would have been if dissenters had got behind the decision because then there'd be no mess (apart from accepting the EU won't be reasonable). Thus the dissenters caused the mess.
It would have been nice to know exactly how to progess an exit but it was never going to make sense spending loads of resources trying to put that together, especially when it hadn't been done before and much would need to be managed as it occurred. Hardly surprising one opted to discover the decision first.
But that was fine, or would have been if dissenters had got behind the decision because then there'd be no mess (apart from accepting the EU won't be reasonable). Thus the dissenters caused the mess.
What I mean is that the referendum was called to unite the Tory party by killing the EU issue. The "Leave" option wasn't really meant to win, and there was no plan for it. That is, and will always have been, a total travesty, and Cameron, by resigning the day after the referendum, abdicated responsibility for a situation he was in large part responsible for.
And all this guff about "dissenters" is also fatuous nonsense. Having made a decision with such wide-reaching and deep consequences, how can you not expect people to want to scrutinise how it is to be achieved? Some people want to stop Brexit, others want to see it carried out as effectively and smoothly as possible. The latter position is hardly dishonest and nothing to do with dissent. Plus there are other people you can "blame" for the continued mess. If the Withdrawal Agreement was indeed rotten then you can thank quite a few Remainers for voting against it; but since it was also the most plausible path out that doesn't also damage everybody then you should be cursing the ERG "Spartans" and DUP for blocking it.
And all this guff about "dissenters" is also fatuous nonsense. Having made a decision with such wide-reaching and deep consequences, how can you not expect people to want to scrutinise how it is to be achieved? Some people want to stop Brexit, others want to see it carried out as effectively and smoothly as possible. The latter position is hardly dishonest and nothing to do with dissent. Plus there are other people you can "blame" for the continued mess. If the Withdrawal Agreement was indeed rotten then you can thank quite a few Remainers for voting against it; but since it was also the most plausible path out that doesn't also damage everybody then you should be cursing the ERG "Spartans" and DUP for blocking it.
The despotic tyrant Thatcher should have been publicly hanged in Parliament Square for treason. She betrayed everyone by destroying the industrial base of this country for the benefit of a small number of her husbands' friends, and deliberately causing hardship and unemployment for millions of British people. To this day, we still suffer from the effects of her tyrannical premiership. Her statue should be removed and broken up for scrap.
Leading manufacturers in the world?! What of?! Deception? Thatcher was a tyrannical traitor and her death was celebrated with street parties in some areas of the country. Corbyn had his photo took with some Arabs. Not quite the same. But you obviously endorse hardship for millions. Maybe you should be next for the gallows, after The Great Traitor.