It Turns Out They Were Chinese In That Lorry....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50162617
No that it changes anything, but it explains why they were being smuggled.

[retrocop]

Whoever closed the door on them when they entered the refridgerated unit is the one who should be answering any charges.

[retrocop]

Mens rea and Actus reus I believe covers the act of recklessness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recklessness_(law)

[BAKERS DOZEN]

i'm wondering who called the paramedics who then informed the police. Saw the initial newsflash that said paramedics had contacted the police at 01.40hrs so why were the paramedics there? Apologies if have missed something about this. Always the possibility it was an innocent driver who had only picked up the container a couple of hours previously but someone got the emergency services there in the middle of the night.

[ABSpareEditor]

Only yesterday a thread on this same topic became very hostile. Hopefully, we can continue this thread without any further confrontation.

[naomi24]

Bakers Dozen, I heard on the news that the man who came to collect the trailer after it has been dropped off opened it to look for the paperwork. He called the ambulance service.

[BAKERS DOZEN]

Thanks Naomi I hadn't heard that. On tv it appears that it was just parked on a road, and on a bend at that, and not at a firm or on a lorry park. It was still attached to the cab. Very strange but no doubt we will get the full tale eventually.

[naomi24]

I expect we shall.

[wolf63]

Everyone involved with this 'incident' (the best word that I could come up with) will be traumatised by it.

I feel sorry for the lorry driver (if the latest story of him being an innocent party) as his name, photo and details have been displayed all over the media.

[Ken4155]

The man who came to collect the lorry was the guy who has been arrested, Naomi. Apparently he had been at the wheel for 2 hours then needed to check the paperwork which was in a 'pocket' on the inside of the door. That's when he discovered the bodies. He rang the ambulance who contacted the police. All this is hearsay, of course, as it's apparently what one of his friends told a reporter.

[naomi24]

I understood the lorry arrived by ferry at Purfleet, ken, which is literally minutes from Grays, where it was found. Why would he have been at the wheel for two hours? It’s all very vague.

[anneasquith]

It is vague, because no one has the proper facts as yet, a bit patience and all will be revealed .

[Hopkirk]

Why pull into a trading estate and fetch the paperwork? He could have fetched it in the trailer park when checking out the trailer.

I reckon he pulled up to let them out. Apparently it was him who called 999 when he found them dead

[derek-33]

From what I understand the driver picked up the trailer from the dockside he wouldn't know what was in the container .by the look of his face book profile and what his neighbours say about him look like he's an innocent guy.already getting bad publicity from the press.

[spathiphyllum]

https://twitter.com/coleey92/status/1187209132924964864

Seems there is support for him on twitter.

[AuntPollyGrey]

He has been released without charge 30 minutes ago

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1187094562419990528

I hope he sues the lights out of the Police/Media etc.

[derek-33]

The daily mail (for one) has dispicably published photos of his and his parents home .

[spathiphyllum]

APG, he was released last night.

https://www.irishpost.com/news/essex-lorry-deaths-police-raid-homes-northern-ireland-25-year-old-driver-named-172962

[douglas9401]

I take it when the trot out 'named locally as', truth seeking journalists can consider themselves absolved of any guilt in punting identities about the place, nodding gravely in the appropriate manner.

If only there wasn't such a desperate rush to be first then people might not have their lives disrupted by these creatures.

I expect better from the BBC as they just take the telly tax and don't even have to bother about advertising income.

Doubtless the wagons will circle as usual though and it'll all be quietly forgotten. Good luck to your man if he seeks compensation but I doubt he'll have much chance past 'lessons will be learned'.

[AuntPollyGrey]

spath no he was not -may I suggest you actually read the link you've provided which has B all to do with his release.

[Hopkirk]

So has he been released? I have doubts over his innocence.