Looks Like This Is It, After 3 Years+

[Khandro]

'The Bill cleared its final Parliamentary hurdle at 6.17pm when the House of Lords bowed to the will of the Commons, which had overturned every amendment by peers this week. After three years of high drama, which cost Theresa May her premiership and changed the political land- scape of Britain, the Brexit Bill was passed in a moment of silence as peers were asked if they were “content” or “not content”. With no one saying “not content”, the Bill was nodded through.'
No question, just a sigh of relief.

[jim360]

Well, strictly speaking we have another ten months of being governed by the same rules as before, because we enter a transition period.

But perhaps that is me deliberately missing the point. I'm sure you'll understand that I can't be as excited by this as you are.

[Peter Pedant]

the fact you luuuuuurve Brexit does not mean that a bill in parliament labelled 'Brexit Bill' does the job

it could be a bad nill

Look at pensions or charities - both worthy objects - they had five goes at each

[ToraToraTora]

we are adhering to current trading agreements etc but we will once again be a sovereign nation, that's what's important, that's what the remain mentality cannot comprehend jim.

[Peter Pedant]

But perhaps that is me deliberately missing the point. I'm sure you'll understand that I can't be as excited by this as you are.
yeah agreed
shouldbe best answer but wont be
(god I sound a bit like VIolet Elizabeth Bott this am)

[diddlydo]

TTT - we have never stopped being a sovereign nation.

[Peter Pedant]

// but we will once again be a sovereign nation,//
oh god listen to that one ! the same old lies

and so as a sovereign nation we could er tax internet companies?
who is it that choruses 'righto!' ?

[ToraToraTora]

well you certainly make me thqeem and thqeem PP!

[Peter Pedant]

clearly bad tempered comment on AB isnt over

[jim360]

I can comprehend the mentality, or at least I like to think I can. As PP says, we were still a sovereign nation within the EU.

[dannyk13]

PP, are you saying that internet companies should not be taxed?

[Khandro]

diddly; //I don't suppose that any of you know EU nationals who have lived here for over 60 years who have had to apply for "settled status"? //

Yes, big deal! & the opposite is true, I now have to apply for residential status here in Germany. Depending on what sort of deal is agreed, I could, on a personal level, loose out in some way.

It's no secret that I have been rooting for a return to British sovereignty on here for the last three years, the reasons for this are manifold, & nothing to do with my personal lot.

[Khandro]

jim//we were still a sovereign nation within the EU.//

That is how it started out, 'an alignment of sovereign nations', but that has now been made nonsense, far from the truth, either you know little about the workings of the EU, or you are in denial.
There's a big fat book called 'European Union for dummies' I think you ought to check it out.

[jim360]

I'm neither in denial nor ignorant -- I just disagree with your assessment.

[ludwig]

This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps the end of the beginning.

I wish this would mean that I never have to hear the word Brexit again, but unfortunately people will still be arguing about it long after I'm dead.

[Old_Geezer]

No lies of any importance, if you can find any (referring to the leave campaign obviously) and no misguidence (referring to the leave campaign again obviously). Just the common sense that having control of one's nation was absolutely vital, and avoiding any claimed economic hit during a transition was not bribe enough to put folk off voting for doing the right thing.

[Old_Geezer]

The phrase 'sovereign nation' rings hollow when one has given a chunk of sovereignty away. Probably being used inappropriately by members of the EU, in the hope of convincing themselves.

[ToraToraTora]

jim: //we were still a sovereign nation within the EU.// - how can we be sovereign when our elected government can be overruled by unelected Brussels bureaucrats?

[Apc2604]

//I don't suppose that any of you know EU nationals who have lived here for over 60 years who have had to apply for "settled status"? That, amongst many other things, is just plain wrong. //

No its not wrong. It's just so that get confirmed British Nationality. Nothing will change in their lives. One wonders why if they have remained in this country happily for that time why they haven't applied for British Nationality much earlier.



I am pleased that my other half who has lived in this country for over 60 years, had parents who applied for British Nationality as soon as they could.

[diddlydo]

You're missing the point! They don't want British nationality when they already have French/Dutch/German/Spanish nationality - they just want to continue to live here in peace as members of an EU state.

[dannyk13]

Diddly, we will not be a member of the EU state.