What Next? The Fish?

[allenlondon]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/bronx-zoo-tiger-tests-positive-for-coronavirus

Tigers in a New York zoo have the coronavirus. What next? The fish in the sea? The birds in the air?

Few things have brought tears to my eyes, but this news has. What are tigers DOING locked up in New York?

Do humans really deserve to survive? And are we dragging the animals down with us?

[ichkeria]

The interesting thing about viruses is they are usually RNA cells (to the extent that there are DNA viruses so-called as it makes them stand out as non-typical) and that is what makes them pernicious as they can fool our own DNA into “obeying their orders” once they get inside us

[royfromaus]

I see douglas as a wit. There are not many thick wits.

[jno]

there are, according to this estimate, more tigers kept in back yards in the USA than there are in the wild.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/shortcuts/2018/jun/20/more-tigers-live-in-us-back-yards-than-in-the-wild-is-this-a-catastrophe

[pixie374]

Doug is usually very funny... leave him to it :-)

[allenlondon]

“ I see douglas as a wit. ” Thanks royfrom, I’ll know who to ask in future.

[derek-33]

the tiger is in central park and a great zoo too like our chester zoo is with out these excellent run zoos a lot of species will become extinct with out there selective breeding policies
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attraction_Review-g60763-d267703-Reviews-Central_Park_Zoo-New_York_City_New_York.html

[Gromit]

// How did the first person get this, then, if it didn't come from bats, but lack of hygiene? //

It has nothing to do with lack of hygiene or eating disgusting (to us) food.
The virus passes on through coughs and sneezes. It is in the tiny droplets in our breath. We know it originated in bats, so a human or a intermediary animal breathed the same air as a bat, and it crossed species. It has now crossed to big cats, again through airborne infection from humans.
It could well cross into cows and pigs, but that will not contaminate our food. We get it from live animals, not dead and cooked ones.

[pixie374]

While I know that is true, Derek, that is still more about what humans want, than tigers (or any endangered animal). "We" don't want them to die out, because we like them, but do individual tigers actually care or know? I'm not sure they would appreciate being kept in captivity to breed to make us feel better.

[pixie374]

Thanks, gromit... x

[derek-33]

pixie
its 99% certainty that the animals in zoos like london bristol chester are breed there and would not survive being released in the wild
have you been to chester zoo it called the zoo without bars, google it
there for education too apart from keeping them from extinction
its in the animals native surrounding that killing them off
ps. i am an avid animal lover against any cruelty be it be it a dog cat or a rat !

[Old_Geezer]

Humans didn't create the virus, it jumped from another species in the first place, thus the condemnation of China's Wet Markets. No point in trying to blame humans for nature's tragedies. May as well blame us for volcanoes, earthquakes, tidal waves, hurricanes, typhoons, ... Maybe you should ask whether nature deserves to survive.

[fender62]

if it came from bats or pangolins, why are they being sold in a market
i find it odd to want to eat a bat..basically a rat with wings, as for pangolins, im not even sure what species they are...weird looking.

[douglas9401]

If it does cross to fish and birds will it be codroenavirus and crownavirus?

[NickorWan]

You could blame humans if we are putting animals from different species together in close confinement when they wouldn't normally get close to each other.

[Atheist]

I think Douglas might have meant better than them roaming free in NY.

[Spicerack]

You reckon?

[Gromit]

The Wuhan market does not sell bats, but it does sell Pangolins. China has had wildlife trading bans on Pangolins on the books for three decades, but those haven’t prevented pangolins from becoming the most illegally trafficked mammal in the world.
Maybe they taste a bit like chicken?

[shoota]

If it crosses to crows all those who insist on calling it corvid19 will finally be correct.

[iluvmargie]

It's all getting too much isn't it allen? I feel sorry for animals in zoos as well, especially beautiful beasts like tigers. Don't worry, it will all come right in the end x

[LadyCG]

It makes you wonder how the tiger caught it in t'first place.

I can't imagine too many people going up to a tiger and kissing it...