Do You Agree With Labour Calls For Transparancy?

[youngmafbog]

On Sky just now with the shadow chancellor Anneliese Dodds, so no link, labour are calling for more facts and figures on the decisions being mad.

I totally agree with labour. The Government cannot just continue with the 'we and the so called experts' know better so we are not going to give you the exact reason we came to our actions.

Sir Kiers opportunity to shine here I think. I am sure I am not the only one to question the current Governments actions.

[teacake44]

^^ to ff

[vulcan42]

A leading virologist has stated that just wearing a mask is not beneficial, it has to be worn correctly or it will do more harm than good. It therefore follows that you just cannot turn out millions of masks to suit everybody, children, for example, would obviously need smaller ones. There is also the problem like 3M shipped masks to Germany and because 3M is an American company, the shipment was rerouted to America. France has also complained they cannot get the items they need because America outbids everybody.

[rockyracoon]

This is why I don't want anymore transparency, there's too many armchair experts that think they know better. I'll leave it to the powers that be, and only have Sky News on when the Grim reaper wants to now the death toll.

[fiction-factory]

> teacake44 "^^to ff"

I'm not sure who it was to, teacake, but it wasn't me if you are talking about masks.

[teacake44]

13.20 so when they do have them ready in the UK, you won't want one, or wear one?

[rockyracoon]

I won't wear one. Not until someone who knows what they are talking about tells me that I should, and I certainly wouldn't do it at the expense of frontline workers.

[gulliver1]

No shortage of Face Masks in Spain , the Police are giving them out free of charge.

[TheWholeTruth]

^
go there then...oh you cant

[vulcan42]

Are they gulliver?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-masks/spains-civil-guards-seize-150000-surgical-masks-for-health-services-idUSKBN2131VC

[gulliver1]

Believe me they are vulcan , Madrid. Just been watching it on TV

[ToraToraTora]

gulliver stop the BS, they are confiscating them to give to the health workers!

[Mamyalynne]

Remember to check dates of reports - Vulcan's link is from March 16th.

Things change daily.

[vulcan42]

\\ trying to do something about a problem is always better than not doing anything.//
Not if it makes the situation worse.

[teacake44]

15.03 your just arguing with no reason, plus giving out of date links, Gulliver is right, they are giving masks out, and not to make things worse, just common sense.

[sevenOP]

"A leading virologist has stated that just wearing a mask is not beneficial, it has to be worn correctly or it will do more harm than good"

Breathing in while under water is not beneficial either.

Asking questions is NOT criticism.

[vulcan42]

\\ Asking questions is NOT criticism.//
That depends on the question asked and who you're asking.

[retrocop]

What is the point of Great Britain wasting their time and money knocking up a basic sub standard mask that is useless to man and beast.China sent us a load of kit that was not issued because it was typical Chinese sub standard and ineffective. As the Medical Officer said with regard to Chinese testing kits," A bad testing kit is worse than no testing kit"
The only mask I would wear is the internationally approved mask with plastic filters. A piece of cotton that could serve as a hankie with four tapes sewn on it does not give adequate protection.
The best kit should go to the front line first otherwise a lot of us are unlikely to need them.

[sevenOP]

"\\ Asking questions is NOT criticism.//
That depends on the question asked and who you're asking."

True, it can depend on context, same as masks and retrocop's comment.
Blind support is as childish as blind faith.

[Canary42]

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"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else." ~ Theodore Roosevelt

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[sevenOP]

Patriotism is just another tribal tool.