Just So We Clear, D C Should Have Sacfrificed His Kid, Is That What The Left Journos Are Saying?

[ToraToraTora]

Can someone explain what he should have done?

[sp1814]

In all this it's saddening to think that neither of them had people in London whom they like and trust enough to call on in a childcare emergency, that they had no option by to drive hundreds of miles away to have the child looked after.

It's also odd that they forgot about the trip when writing about their illness in the Spectator.

In a piece published by the Spectator on 25th April he was careful not to mention his trip north when he wrote that “at the end of March and for the first two weeks of April I was ill, so we were both shut in together.”

Meanwhile, in a Spectator article published on 24 April, Cumming’s wife Mary wrote about her experiences suffering from coronavirus, where she dreamed of being looked after by Cummings but within 24 hours of her symptoms starting “he said ‘I feel weird’ and collapsed”. She went on to explain that for the next 10 days “Dom couldn’t get out of bed. Day in, day out for ten days he lay doggo with a high fever and spasms that made the muscles lump and twitch in his legs.”

At some point within those 10 days, Cummings drove over 250 miles to his parent’s property near Durham in direct contravention of the UK-wide lockdown regulations that had come into force a week earlier. Wakefield never mentions this trip.

If they though what they were doing was acceptable within Government guidelines, why hide it?

[gulliver1]

Ken 17.37, I thought she referring to me @ 17.18.

[sunny-dave]

Thanks SP - saved me a load of typing - especially the sad/ludicrous nature of claiming that he and his well connected wife had precisely no-one they could turn to in the whole of London ... surely even the most unpopular Nobby No Mates could have done better than that?

[Ken4155]

TTT. Neither you nor I, nor anyone else, is privy to what all those non Tory voters are thinking about the situation. The majority, for all we know, may think (like you) that putting his son first was the right thing to do. We will never know. So to claim all belong to this so-called 'lynch mob' is more than a tad misleading.
As for the lefty meeja? Are you now saying that not only are the BEEB biased, but so are ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, et al?
Tea-time. Bon appetit.

[Zacs-Master]

Tora:
‘ Ms Wakefield went to hospital with their son, while Mr Cummings stayed at home’
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-dominic-cummings-lockdown-boris-johnson-cases/

[jno]

I'm sure protecting your child while sacrificing your parents instead seems perfectly logical to Imalwaysright-wingers.

[rowanwitch]

He was stupid, arrogant and irresponsible however I understand why he would do it. Panic perhaps prevented him thinking things through. I can't judge as my family brought my elderly mother to stay with me after she failed to cope with the isolation. While they were very careful and no one had shown symptoms it was still stretching the guidelines. I am glad she is here so I can care for her but I know it was technically wrong.

[New Judge]

//...especially the sad/ludicrous nature of claiming that he and his well connected wife had precisely no-one they could turn to in the whole of London ... surely even the most unpopular Nobby No Mates could have done better than that?//

Exactly, dave. His story is pathetic. I know somebody who did exactly what he did - decamped with his family from London to his holiday home in Dorset. He told neighbours he had arrived before the lockdown and now couldn't go home because of it. Absolute cobblers. He arrived with enough stuff for a lengthy stay and actually travelled on the Sunday before the lockdown came into effect on 23rd March, when it was well publicised what the restrictions would be.

Mr Cummings is obviously accustomed to people not questioning what he spouts. Well some people have and he's come up short.

[gness]

Didn't he go to the hospital to collect them, Zacs?

[Zacs-Master]

Dunno, Gness. I actually posted on the wrong ‘cummings’ thread. Easy mishtayke to make.

[MallyJ]

Sacrifice his son??? Good grief. By going up north with a sick wife and possibly being ill himself he not only put his son at more risk by being in a care with windows and doors shut with germs abounding, but also those people who were expected to look after him should he need care...Cummings elderly parents or sister or her children ... Cares a great deal for the rest of his family....not!! Not going to mention his eyesight problem that he tested out with his wife and child in the car at a local castle are. Does he think we are all stupid..or is he relying on the few stupid people who takes what he said as the complete truth....?

[gness]

Ah yes. He left self-isolation to collect his wife and son from the hospital. I guess there wasn't a sister or niece who could drive.

[gness]

Now I can't think how you'd be getting confused, Zacs... ;-)

[Zacs-Master]

;-) The OP seems to be even more confused, to be honest.

[gulliver1]

But how did she get to the Hospital ?

[gness]

He says by ambulance.

[sp1814]

"I thought I'd test my eyesight by driving to a tourist hotspot rather than around a farm big enough to have three separate houses on it."

But y'know what - despite all of this, I *genuinely* feel sorry for him. I think he and his wife tried to lie their way out of this, and the whole 'doing what any father would do' line sounds like bunkum, but I actually felt sorry for him during the press conference. I was cringing so much I had to leave the living room.

[New Judge]

I didn't watch the press conference, sp, because I knew I would get annoyed. If he suggested that he was doing what any father would do he's wrong on two counts: 1. Most fathers would think of the problem in the round and assess how it impacts on other people. 2. As brilliant as it's said he is, his problem solving techniques don't seem too clever. There were plenty of alternatives (as I said, more for him than most) that presented far less risk all round to him, his partner, his child and everybody else. What he did was just about the worst thig he could have done - to embark on a lengthy trip when both he and his partner (and possibly his child) were possibly infected with a virus that has the potential to make one seriously ill. Put bluntly, the man's a selfish pillock and the very least he deserves is having to squirm on the telly.

[david small]

Here’s an idea, why don’t we all mind our own business.

[gness]

Same here for me, SP......left Dave recording it so I can take it in small doses.....he was very fidgety and shifty.