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Lack Of Quarantine Let In 1300 Infected People From Aboard
At the beginning of the pandemic at least 1,356 different corona origin infections came into the UK, mainly from Spain and France.
On each of those occasions somebody brought the infection into the UK from abroad and the virus began to spread as a result.
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The failure to ground flights or quarantine people on those flights that were allowed, meant that the virus spread rapidly.
Only now, 10 weeks and 41,000 UK deaths later, are we making an half-hearted attempt at quarantining.
So much for taking back control of our borders. There should be an i quiring about how this error occurred.
On each of those occasions somebody brought the infection into the UK from abroad and the virus began to spread as a result.
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The failure to ground flights or quarantine people on those flights that were allowed, meant that the virus spread rapidly.
Only now, 10 weeks and 41,000 UK deaths later, are we making an half-hearted attempt at quarantining.
So much for taking back control of our borders. There should be an i quiring about how this error occurred.
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Apart from a curfew proper trace and isolate setup is the only sure-fire way to stop an epidemic. This approach has been used very successfully elsewhere but the UK ran out of test kits and had to abandon it shortly after initiating it at the outset and was never able to resume it. Part of such strategy would be putting all returning residents into quarantine...
18:08 Wed 10th Jun 2020
Covid-19 didn’t blow in on the wind.
It was flown in from abroad.
1,356 carriers brought it in, and they spread it to 290,000 people, with nearly 41,000 dying.
Obviously it was a huge error. By why did it occur ?
- Did the Government and SAGE Not understand ?
- Was it too hard to quarantine that many ?
- Was it deemed too costly ?
- Was it lack of will ?
- Or just straightforward incompetence ?
It was flown in from abroad.
1,356 carriers brought it in, and they spread it to 290,000 people, with nearly 41,000 dying.
Obviously it was a huge error. By why did it occur ?
- Did the Government and SAGE Not understand ?
- Was it too hard to quarantine that many ?
- Was it deemed too costly ?
- Was it lack of will ?
- Or just straightforward incompetence ?
At the beginning of the pandemic at least 1,356 different corona origin infections came into the UK, mainly from Spain and France.
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Indeed, like the 3,000 who came over from Spain for a football match and subsequently spread the infection in bars, clubs and cafes around Liverpool......in a similar fashion to the OP’er who insisted on STILL attending ‘the local’ with his small group of friends at the very start of the pandemic, when everyone was being urged not to indulge in such behaviour.
Glass houses and stones......
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Indeed, like the 3,000 who came over from Spain for a football match and subsequently spread the infection in bars, clubs and cafes around Liverpool......in a similar fashion to the OP’er who insisted on STILL attending ‘the local’ with his small group of friends at the very start of the pandemic, when everyone was being urged not to indulge in such behaviour.
Glass houses and stones......
Chilled Doubt.
You obviously didn’t read the link.
// An estimated 3,000 fans flew in from Spain to watch the game, but there were 20,000 people flying in from Spain every single day in mid-March.
" It shows that individual events such as football matches likely made a negligible contribution to the number of imports at that time," the study says.
You obviously didn’t read the link.
// An estimated 3,000 fans flew in from Spain to watch the game, but there were 20,000 people flying in from Spain every single day in mid-March.
" It shows that individual events such as football matches likely made a negligible contribution to the number of imports at that time," the study says.
Gromit,
From the city’s very own newspaper:
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From the city’s very own newspaper:
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// the OP’er who insisted on STILL attending ‘the local’ with his small group of friends at the very start of the pandemic, when everyone was being urged not to indulge in such behaviour. //
As I explained at the time (before lockdown was imposed) my shift at work involved mingling with thousands of the general public. So watching a football match after work in the pub with a few friends was fine by me and breaking no rules.
On that day there were 34 Corona deaths. Yesterday there were 286 deaths and the Government were insisting that small children should go and sit in a classroom.
As I explained at the time (before lockdown was imposed) my shift at work involved mingling with thousands of the general public. So watching a football match after work in the pub with a few friends was fine by me and breaking no rules.
On that day there were 34 Corona deaths. Yesterday there were 286 deaths and the Government were insisting that small children should go and sit in a classroom.
Apart from a curfew proper trace and isolate setup is the only sure-fire way to stop an epidemic. This approach has been used very successfully elsewhere but the UK ran out of test kits and had to abandon it shortly after initiating it at the outset and was never able to resume it. Part of such strategy would be putting all returning residents into quarantine until they are certain to be clear of the virus, non-residents have far less close contact with anyone and are substantially less of a risk but they could also be quarantined for good measure. Again, something that has worked well elsewhere.
Now there are discussions about establishing quarantine exemptions between the UK and selected other low risk countries. This, for now, is dependent on (held up by) the UK being trusted by any other country. A list of 45 countries has been drawn up (in the UK) but, oddly, it does not include a European country where there are effectively no cases left. The UK's whole approach to the crisis has been conspicuously unsuccessful and easy to criticise at many different levels and from lots of different angles. One of my main criticisms is the politicisation of the operation, the "guidance by science" is a lightweight political slogan. There should be professional leadership available for this sort of operation, running things free from political considerations and prerogatives.
The UK now presides over the very worst outcome from the pandemic by almost every single measure but I see little or no sign of a demand for a change in the culture which has led to this. That the UK is worst and not best seems unutterable. Thus the same level of failure is bound to be repeated in some way sometime (in/by the UK).
Now there are discussions about establishing quarantine exemptions between the UK and selected other low risk countries. This, for now, is dependent on (held up by) the UK being trusted by any other country. A list of 45 countries has been drawn up (in the UK) but, oddly, it does not include a European country where there are effectively no cases left. The UK's whole approach to the crisis has been conspicuously unsuccessful and easy to criticise at many different levels and from lots of different angles. One of my main criticisms is the politicisation of the operation, the "guidance by science" is a lightweight political slogan. There should be professional leadership available for this sort of operation, running things free from political considerations and prerogatives.
The UK now presides over the very worst outcome from the pandemic by almost every single measure but I see little or no sign of a demand for a change in the culture which has led to this. That the UK is worst and not best seems unutterable. Thus the same level of failure is bound to be repeated in some way sometime (in/by the UK).
And what has the UK been doing to stop people spreading Covid from our shores? Temperature testing on exiting LHR? No. Anyone could fly out of the UK and spread the virus to all parts of the world. At least other outstations have been testing people and preventing them getting on a plane to the UK. Shame the UK didn't return the compliment
The only defence 'we' had was a message from PHE which was read out on flights to tell people that if they had symptoms (high temp etc) then they should phone 111 when they got to the UK. Great if you are British, not so good if you are a foreigner but those from abroad could just ignore that advice anyway because they know that if they became really ill, the NHS would look after them. So nothing to worry about there. The UK has mismanaged this situation from the very start.
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