How Many Of Us Girls Were ‘Brownies’ And Boys Were Scouts?

[Bobbisox1]

I was a Brownie ( will that be changed to something else now?)
I suppose I was a product of Baden Powells teachings, I learnt etiquette, camaraderie and much more as a small girl, how can they erase history like this?

[Peter Pedant]

// es, I wonder how many of these protesters are avoiding using the hospitals/schools etc that the "evil men" have provided.//

been done
first day - british afro caribbean was asked which school he attended in Bristol. It pretty well has to have Colston in the name
Same answer as the Rhodes scholar who want Rhodes statue taken down

[jim360]

Whatever, N. The only spin in the RBP case was from the entire media, who kept saying the statue was "removed", when it was clear that it was merely moved temporarily to protect it from possible protests. A significant difference.

[naomi24]

And you believe that, Jim. Course you do .....

[Peter Pedant]

not moved
foundations too deep
doesnt ANYONE read what I write
or at least what is in the Darrrrzet Echo which may be an easier read - aaaarh - or not

[bhg481]

TheWholeTruth - yes, I should have said "without people taking offence"; sloppy language on my part.

[Peter Pedant]

// And you believe that, Jim. Course you do .....//

its been in every news bulletin as the Gee Thelma item
Statue unmoved - too deep - still there - flanked scouts

[jim360]

I take the Council at their word, yes. In that case I'm naive, rather than spinning. Get your criticism right :P

// ... people like [Baden Powell] will be remembered only for the negative - the rest airbrushed from history. //

I find this point odd: the purpose of a statue is usually to venerate somebody, to praise their positive aspects, whilst airbrushing the negative from history. The exact opposite, in other words.

Would you object to a solution that preserved the statues but placed
them in a fuller context? Something that echoes the Warner Brothers Approach:

// Tom & Jerry shorts may depict some ethnic and racial prejudices that were once commonplace in American society. Such depictions were wrong then and are wrong today. While not representing the Warner Bros. view of today's society, these shorts are being presented as they were originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming these prejudices never existed. //

[Peter Pedant]

and Baking Powder hasnt been moved

there is no point in moving him and then having scouts flank and guard him, now is there?

there are time when I know it is Aryan Bank and not me

[naomi24]

I want them left alone, Jim.

[tiggerblue10]

I was never allowed to join Guides or Brownies :o(

[jim360]

Fair enough. Adding some more historical context strikes me as improving our appreciation of history, and leaving it out would be clearly airbrushing.

[Bobbisox1]

why was that Tiggs?

[tiggerblue10]

Strict parents, Bobbi. I lead a sheltered life given my background but that all changed when I was 18 ;o)

[poorclare]

ah those were the days, loved my time as a Brownie.
May I suggest that if someone does not like a statue ~
don't look at it.

[jim360]

I wasn't allowed *not* to. :O

[Bobbisox1]

Ohhh are you a rebel wee Tiggs HAHA

[zebo]

I read somewhere that an episode of Fawlty Towers has been 'removed' for being racist, maybe they can get rid of Dad's Army for being mean to the Germans, Henry V may upset the French. The list is endless.

[Bobbisox1]

yes Zebo, it.s all happening , no doubt with the blessing of the London Mayor Mr Khan

[poorclare]

That was the only episode of Faulty Towers I didn't like

[naomi24]

//Adding some more historical context strikes me as improving our appreciation of history//

Write a book - and just hope that at sometime in the future someone who objects to it doesn't come along and ban it - or burn it.