Face Masks On Buses

[smurfchops]

Saw a few people on buses today without face masks. Nothing done about it. And nothing will be done in shops either. Another Boris Bumble.

[dannyk13]

Diddly //they advised lockdown a week earlier but he didn't do it.//
I think that you will find that at that time the scientists were split over whether it would do any good or not,

[fiction-factory]

Have you got a link for that Diddlydo? Chris Whitty says it wasn't done late. Can you point to the SAGE minutes please to clarify this?

[ichkeria]

Face masks is one thing but arrows in shops?
Particularly in large supermarkets with reduced numbers of customers. Ridiculous. A few of them have binned then, presumably after complaints.

[dannyk13]

ich, the idea of arrows on the floors of supermarkets was their idea, not the Government's.

[douglas9401]

He takes advice for the INITIAL decision from scientists but looks to headlines and public opinion when caving in.

[diddlydo]

Plenty of articles out there if you care to look for them. What is more, Boris earlier maintained there was no good case for face masks.

[Prudie]

FF Exactly, throughout this whole thing scientists have been disagreeing with each other, how anyone can truly be blamed is a mystery as in reality nobody really knows what we are dealing with.

[fiction-factory]

Never been to Ikea, ichkeria?. Arrows can work- works well at a nearby restaurant/pub so everyone goes in one door and out at another, and can work in shops , but many ignored them and they can be frustrating especially if you want to wander back and forth along an aisle to choose the cheese or frozen food. I have noticed some shops have dispensed with them . Certainly schools will need one way systems in September

[dannyk13]

Very sensible post from Prudie.

[ichkeria]

“ ich, the idea of arrows on the floors of supermarkets was their idea, not the Government's.”

???
I didn’t say it was. Naturally it’s the shops’ idea

[dannyk13]

ich, then why bring it up ? Apart from anything else it has nothing to do with buses.

[ichkeria]

“ but many ignored them and they can be frustrating especially if you want to wander back and forth along an aisle to choose the cheese or frozen food”

Which it’s why it’s ridiculous and no one bothers with them.
Ok as a general guideline but a woman in Tescos tried to stop me walking back down an empty aisle for something.
And a poor woman in Sainsbury’s once asked me if she thought I’d get into trouble for “going the wrong way”. I assured her she wouldn’t.
Common sense is what’s needed.

[ichkeria]

“ ich, then why bring it up ? Apart from anything else it has nothing to do with buses.”
Someone complained about not wearing masks, observing arrows etc
Thank you all the same

[Bobbisox1]

It's observed very well here ( floor arrows) in the large shopping centre , there's people telling you to keep to the right or left depending where you're going, I have no objections to this at all

[ichkeria]

That’s different Bobbi: arrows in shopping centres and “in” and “out” arrows in stores.
And it makes sense in small shops with narrow aisles.
But not rigorously enforced in multi aisle stores where there are fewer people anyway.
I have a revolutionary approach to social distancing there: I sort of just use the eyes in my head :-)

[dannyk13]

ich // I sort of just use the eyes in my head :-)//
But that doesn't allow for the person behind you is less than the prescribed distance away.

[ichkeria]

Of course it doesn’t.
I can’t help that.
But having everyone go round the store unidirectionally won’t do that either. As I had been about to say but thought it unnecessary :-)

[dannyk13]

ich , as the arrows are spaced at a distance of two metres they just might remind the person behind to maintain that distance.

[ichkeria]

Sainsbury’s, for example, have little pairs of feet (images that is) which do that. I doubt if anyone much pays attention unless queuing at the check out or to get in.
What causes “crowding” is several people trying to get to the same shelf, and it matters not in that case whether you have a supposed one way system or not.
It’s just common sense.

As for the shop ruling now, police are calling for shop owners to refuse entry to non mask wearers. And at the same time a government minister is saying people shouldn’t be “accosted” for not wearing one.
Fundamentally the rule is unenforceable. But relies on most people complying. I don’t think there is a lot else you can do

[Bobbisox1]

I echo the fact we are becoming a nation of whiners ( no one in particular on here ) just do it, hopefully it's not forever