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retrocop | 08:47 Fri 25th Sep 2020 | News
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How or Why. I can understand police officers facing firearms on the streets but inside a custody suite is beyond belief.How did he get a firearm inside the nick? These are certainly questions to be asked. Always search your prisoner!

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-officer-shot-dead-croydon-custody-075203143.html
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I thought they searched them as soon as they are arrested, long before they even get to the nick.
08:57 Fri 25th Sep 2020
If you scroll down this is what it says
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Sky News understands that the victim was a long-serving member of the the Met who worked as a custody sergeant at the Croydon facility.

He is believed to have been an officer for almost 30 years.

Sky crime correspondent Martin Brunt said: "As far as I can piece together, the suspect was arrested in the early hours in Croydon.

"He'd been stopped and searched by two special police constables.

"I understand that they found some ammunition - maybe only one bit of ammunition on him - so that was enough to arrest him.

"He was then put into a police car, or more likely a police van with a cage for prisoners.

"But for some reason, I'm told he wasn't hand-cuffed.

"He was brought here to Croydon, and at around two o'clock this morning, he was taken into the custody suite and put into a holding cell which is normal procedure.

"At one point, the officer who died, opened the door to the cell to do two things.

"To get personal details of the suspect, but also to go through some COVID-19 procedures, which are mandatory for anybody who's brought into the custody suite.

"And it was at that point that the weapon was produced by the suspect and fired at the officer."

It is understood the officer has family overseas who the Met is trying to get in contact with.
"I understand that they found some ammunition - maybe only one bit of ammunition on him - so that was enough to arrest him.

"He was then put into a police car, or more likely a police van with a cage for prisoners.

"But for some reason, I'm told he wasn't hand-cuffed.

"He was brought here to Croydon, and at around two o'clock this morning, he was taken into the custody suite and put into a holding cell which is normal procedure.

"At one point, the officer who died, opened the door to the cell to do two things.
"To get personal details of the suspect, but also to go through some COVID-19 procedures, which are mandatory for anybody who's brought into the custody suite.

"And it was at that point that the weapon was produced by the suspect and fired at the officer."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/police-officer-shot-dead-by-man-who-was-being-detained-at-custody-centre/ar-BB19pn4A?li=BBoPWjQ
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I wouldn't like to be in the custody sergeant's shoes.
"Sky News understands that the victim was a long-serving member of the the Met who worked as a custody sergeant at the Croydon facility."
In that case ignore my post at 14.04.
He's been stopped and searched by 2 special constables and a small amount of ammunition was found on him, and yet they didn't find a gun? Would I be right in saying that SPC's don't carry handcuffs? Would they then have radioed for a van and wouldn't the police officers that turned up with the van search and handcuff him?
As always, there is confusing information coming out, and lots and lots of assumptions being made on the basis of potentially inaccurate media feeds.

We should all wait and let things calm down, and the truth of the circumstances emerge, before our armchair judgements - they are not helpful to anyone.
This is terribly sad. No doubt some procedural matters were not followed or were insufficient. As said, we just don't know the details of why or how this could have happened. Poor family.
andy, I, along with others will be thinking,'How on earth could this happen?' Trying to piece together in my mind, I was just asking a few questions that I don't know the answers too, but you are right, we should wait until the full story comes out.
//BBC Home Affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said it was believed the suspect was known to counter-terrorism police having been on their radar in the past, though the Met Police has not officially confirmed that.//

Can you believe that?
god I thought you searched them on arrest
or else they say it is planted
anyone for history?
did Carlos the terrorist - holding the OPEC arabs hostage. golly that time ago....
Didnt Carlos get out of a tight corner - when deux policiers and an informer went around to his flat to arrest him - - and he shot them dead?

(identification by the informer wasnt taken seriously and they dragged themslves and the informer around assuming it was gonna be a feint)
// we should wait until the full story comes out.//

then we will waiting for an EXTREMELY long time - see manchester arena 2017
Seemingly the shooter was in handcuffs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-54302266
Makes it even harder to understand if his hands were handcuffed behind his back.
They would have been handcuffed at the front.
The article says they were behind his back, just doesn't make sense.
Handcuffed in the front? In that case they still have full-range movement of their arms and hands. Is that the standard procedure in the UK?

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