Why Cant They Just Let The Virus Rip Through The Universities?

[dave50]

They are all young so they will have very mild symptoms and by the time they get home they will all have had it.

[iluvmargie]

14:41 what a moronic comment!

[Spicerack]

Why? Do you think they put your contributions under a mattress until you retired. If there's little money going in, they can't pluck it out of the air indefinitely. Do you believe everyone else has to pay for this but pensioners, and their pensions are inviolate?
It strikes me that the people clamouring loudest for more restrictions, more lockdowns are the ones least affected by it. It's very selfish, you know.

[Peter Pedant]

// It strikes me that the people clamouring loudest for more restrictions, more lockdowns are the ones least affected by it//

echoed in the Times today - those going for lockdown are those who have fixed incomes and zero chance of being fired

[Peter Pedant]

// what a moronic comment!//
that is because you are on a site called AB my love

[alidoc]

One way to build up herd immunity in the young thereby protecting the elderly and vulnerable. However some students are vulnerable too and the deaths of otherwise healthy youngsters is a very high price to pay.

[New Judge]

//…but hey there are those who think we oldies are not worth protecting,//

I don’t think there’s anybody thinking that, Danny. You’ve taken the action you’ve decided is best for you. I’m not exactly young and I would probably be at risk of serious symptoms if I contracted the virus. But I don’t expect everybody else to lock themselves away indefinitely (for that is what it would mean) in order to “keep me safe.” Only I can keep me safe. I’ve assessed the risk to me; I’ve decided that it is sufficiently low for me to accept; I take reasonable precautions where practical but I am behaving as normally as I am allowed to. It is completely unreasonable to expect the vast majority of the population who are quite content to go about their business normally to lock themselves away for an indefinite period.

// Let's hope it's not your child or grandchild who croaks then.//

No let’s hope not. But the government cannot prevent all deaths from either this or anything else. It is becoming clear now that more deaths are likely from non-Covid issues that are not properly treated than from Covid itself. So I hope nobody dies from any of those either but the chances are they will so long as this strategy is pursued.

//I am in my late 80’s. This is not “living”//

And that’s a very good point. I don’t want to remain alive simply to remain alive. I want to do so in order to live my life. If it’s a choice between living a relatively normal life whilst taking my chances of catching the virus I’ll do that rather than spend my life hiding behind the sofa. Others may think differently – and they should be free to make that choice.

[Peter Pedant]

// Spicerack// reduced pensions and benefits//
And how do you think that these can be reduced?//

have you noticed the supreme court here is nothing like the supreme court in the Land of the Free?

now why may that be?

it wdnt be because the govt rattles the bars of their gilded cage and snarls - show any independence and some terrible really terrible will happen to your guaranteed pensions
You mau think that - I cdnt possibly

Boris by the way has forbidden unlocking the triple lock of the pensions by the way - for now

[Peter Pedant]

// One way to build up herd immunity in the young thereby protecting the elderly and vulnerable.//

Herd immunity is NEVER the way to go ( invalid in all worlds) and is the only stimulus to the get the WHOLE of sage ( the ctee of mad scientists advising the govt) to howl in unison

once again, for those who missed my other comments:
for Herd immunity to take effect we require immunity to be 60% - it is related to Ro. We are at 6%
This in the short term to 1 Jan 2021 say - is a complete non starter. It is more use waiting for Godot

[Peter Pedant]

// I’ll do that rather than spend my life hiding behind the sofa.//
quite right m'lud if every man were an island

but has m'lud realised - - he isnt ( an island )
and that he is not behind a sofa ONLY for the comfort of mlud but because others may benefit from it? Something to do with contagion

I am prepared for mlud to lose his temper , bang his gavel, and scream - off with that mans head .... such would be the end of my miserable life ( because he has done it before)

[Sqad]

NJ

////////It is completely unreasonable to expect the vast majority of the population who are quite content to go about their business normally to lock themselves away for an indefinite period.//////

I think that you mean undefined rather than indefinite, if I am wrong then please forgive me.

///unreasonable//// and there lies the problem..?some people say it is others say it isn't. Both yourself and fraction fiction put both sides of the argument coherent and eloquently jt te subject remains unsolved
The endless threads, statistics and reports are doing other to bring an end to this most testing and dangerous scourge.

[Baldric]

The OP seems to suggest you can only get the Virus once, I've not read that anywhere else.

[lady-janine]

If this going to happen I might as well say goodbye now. Nice knowing you.

[jno]

Baldric, there have been one or two suggestions that people have been re-infected (though it may have been the first infection recurring). But it's way too soon to say you can only catch it once. Kids are said to have chickenpox just once; yet years later it may return as shingles.

[New Judge]

//I think that you mean undefined rather than indefinite, if I am wrong then please forgive me.//

No I mean indefinite, sqad as in "lasting for an unknown or unstated length of time." I suppose it's very similar in meaning to undefined in this context, but indefinite is the word I'd choose because for this strategy to continue it will have to do so indefinitely. And that's not sustainable without serious collateral damage - far worse than the "cure" - ensuing.

BTW, you are forgiven! :-)

[Bazile]

NJ

Given that you (amongst others )are quite vocal on this subject

Out of interest , are you abiding by the government's rules / guidelines or are you ignoring them ?

[nailit]

Bazile,
As someone who has been 'vocal' about this myself, I can say that I myself have been adhering to guidlines as much as common sense dictates. Walking through my city centre today I counted 8 discarded face masks. If this virus is so deadly that we are required to wear masks to help stop the spread, then why are there no biohazard bins to dispose of them safely?
The virus is real. The 'precautions' against it are inane.

[Deskdiary]

I’m abiding by them, even though it’s an abdication of common sense to do so.

I’m wearing a mask in shops, not because of any fear of catching it or passing it on by fleetingly passing somebody (the risk is about as close to zero as it’s possible to get), but simply because I can’t be arsed to get into a row with some cretin - because it’s bound to happen.

I’m also abiding by the rule of six; as I said on another post, last Saturday afternoon I went to the pub with four friends, so we were abiding, although I know for a fact three of them were meeting different sets of people that evening, but just so long as all three didn’t meet more than six, they weren’t breaking the rule of six.

That evening my wife and I and two other couples went for a meal to celebrate a birthday, and as there were only six of us, so we weren’t breaking the rule.

It’s the above absurdity that I struggle to cope with - it is an ill-thought out rule.

[jno]

lady-janine, I think you may have to make the ultimate sacrifice to save the British economy. Here's a glass of whisky and a revolver.

[nailit]

//I’m wearing a mask in shops, not because of any fear of catching it or passing it on by fleetingly passing somebody (the risk is about as close to zero as it’s possible to get), but simply because I can’t be arsed to get into a row with some cretin - because it’s bound to happen//
Same here DD. I was in the post office a couple of weeks ago (only 4 of us in there at the time) One youngish bloke wasnt wearing a mask but had obvious breathing difficulties. He got told, rather rudely, by an elderly gentleman that he should be wearing a mask. He replied that he was exempt due to medical reasons. The elderly gents response was to become abusive. I understand that elderly people are frightened at the moment but I couldnt respect this guys attitude. The reason that I mask up is to avoid this type of confrontation.

[david small]

I too follow the rules with a sigh. Confrontation with the understandably fearful, I avoid if possible. Inevitably, eventually, this virus will have to be absorbed into the body public. Statistics and vehemently expressed opinions not withstanding, herd immunity or successfully producing a working vaccine appear to me the only way.