Why Cant They Just Let The Virus Rip Through The Universities?

[dave50]

They are all young so they will have very mild symptoms and by the time they get home they will all have had it.

[bobbinwales]

A think thered be a case for letting it rip if students live just in the uni on campus as so few would be killed or seriusly ill. But its not that simple in practise as students have to go into town shopping and to pubs maybe on buses and they will come into contact with locals, so if lots of students are infected it will spread Allso many live off campus and after travel in on the bus and will be in contact with flatmates who may not be students and will also go to shops and pubs. Also some live with parent's still so there at risk.
Its a tricky problem and theres no easy answer is it

[New Judge]

//NJ

Given that you (amongst others )are quite vocal on this subject

Out of interest , are you abiding by the government's rules / guidelines or are you ignoring them ?//

I’ve complied with all the legislation to the letter (and, believe me, I’ve examined all the letters with a fine-toothed comb). Many of them give me little choice. For example, I’ve just returned from a meal out. I would normally linger in the restaurant until 10:30ish. Tonight, of course, I had to be out by ten, so I arrived an hour earlier than usual. Quite how that will help “keep everybody safe” is a little puzzling, but I had no choice. Many of them go completely against my common sense. The one I am going to have to seriously think about is the “rule of six”. It is an absolutely ridiculous rule (and I’ve outlined why before) and I may have to give it some thought. I don’t see why I can’t invited half a dozen people to join Mrs NJ and I whenever I want, especially bearing in mind that demonstrators can assemble in any numbers they like. A couple of my friends are tradesmen and I’m thinking of inviting them and their assistants (their wives) to come in and look at my plumbing or electrics.

//A think thered be a case for letting it rip if students live just in the uni on campus as so few would be killed…//

Why such drama? They wouldn’t “be killed”. They’d die of an infectious disease. “Being killed” is what happens when you’re knifed or shot. Although the victim is just as dead, there’s a considerable difference in the explanation.

[Deskdiary]

I can’t be the only one astonished at the intelligence of this virus.

Six people are safe, but woe betide the seventh person, it knows only to attack before 10pm and it knows the four parts of the UK have different rules.

The most intelligent virus ever.

[Spicerack]

And it can distinguish a Politically Correct peaceful mob from the idiots who want to kill your Granny.

[Deskdiary]

Quite - lets extend granny’s life by a year, and in doing so totally screw the future of our children. Great plan that. Well done.

[Hopkirk]

Going back to the original question, go to any university campus and look around. The place is filled with people of all ages, not just young students.

There are mature students, lecturers, admin staff, catering staff, security guards, bus drivers, contractors, visiting parents, etc etc.
Some campuses are on major public roads and very few are isolated.

Of course many of the students take trips home to older family members on occasions.

Letting the virus 'rip through' universities would cause many casualties and spread the virus throughout the wider population.

[emmie]

then give it to everyone else, including any elderly relatives, poor thinking on your part

[bobbinwales]

Sorry, am shocked by the wierd arguments on answerbank.
For example why is six safe but seventh person isnt. Sorry but thats silly. Two is a smallish risk, Four is more of a risk . Six is a bigger risk. Ten is bigger. hundred is lot's bigger. Keep contact's to a minimum. Peopel wanted simple rule's but now we have one and people want to be able to use there own judgment and have no number.
For example again some say i can meet six group's of 5 in a day but not 1 group of 10. Yes, you can do six group's of 5 but it's not a good idea- pretty dumb really at present.. A think peopel think it make's them look smart, but its just the apposite to me.
It'll all end up like Scotland and some Wales and England towns soon anyway so then household's cant mix so the 6 or 7 debate's will hopefuly stop.
Has anyone really been charged though for haveing 7 not 6.

[bobbinwales]

Good example from the judge, thank's judge. Judge is saying the virus doesnt kill peopel they just die of it. Er...

[New Judge]

//Good example from the judge, thank's judge. Judge is saying the virus doesnt kill peopel they just die of it. Er...//

That's not what the judge said at all (as I'm sure you know). My criticism is of the pejorative language being used to promote hysteria. Young people are told not to "kill their granny". If they pass the virus on to their granny and she dies as a result it will not be the grandchild who killed her. She will die of the disease. The talk of "being killed" by somebody who passes on a highly infectious disease to another is simply designed to be inflammatory.

Your phrase which I criticised - "A think thered be a case for letting it rip if students live just in the uni on campus as so few would be killed…" - is an example of just that. It would be far better if you said "...as so few would die as a result." "Being killed" in the context you applied it implies that the victims die at the hands of the virus carrier, and they do not.

[bobbinwales]

nope judge. Your overthinking it. Cancer kills according to the cancer research uK. The goverment published a report called Smoking kills. But a see what your doing- your arguing over a miner detail because you know am right on the main point whether I say the virus kills or peopel die from it makes no diffrence to the points a made.

[Peter Pedant]

// The talk of "being killed" by somebody who passes on a highly infectious disease.....
//

the real problem here IS communication. Holding ones judicial nose and opinion that such a statement is inflammatory therefore wrong
leads me to think that the honoured Judge has left the rails again and is insisting Covid does NOT kill. Mad quite mad

But No ! left me further explain in case it is unclear - - on a closer reading with a fine comb etc and much thought we read - that indeed Covid DOES terminate life ( and m'lud insists he never denied such an obvious fact ) but not "kill"

oh lardy lardy

I think the editor should think seriously of a health warning
"AB favours free speech but some opinions expressed are obviously crazy"

[Marjoprydore]

Yes/ Let their families suffer, especially the grandparents. !!!!!! For goodness sake, the youngsters don't take it seriously. I am alright is their motto.

[ummmm]

'Some' youngsters.

[naomi24]

//the youngsters don't take it seriously. I am alright is their motto.//

‘I’m alright’ seems to be the motto of many others too, in particular pensioners and those paid from the public purse who have a guaranteed income. I’ve not seen much thought from them for those who have families to support and mortgages to pay and whose jobs are in peril. They forget that with companies going under the taxes that pay those guaranteed incomes - and support the health service - will be no more.

[Ellipsis]

> They are all young so they will have very mild symptoms and by the time they get home they will all have had it.

For a start ... because universities consist of more than students, so they are not all young. For example, when I was 18 and at university, many of my lecturers and tutors were well over 50. As was my cleaner, the ladies who worked at the laundrette, several of the librarians and so on ...

[Sunk]

// Just Let The Virus Rip Through The Universities //

I can’t think of anything more futile and pointless.
Sure a lot of people would suffer but survive, but some would inevitably die. But it would really get us anywhere.
I have seen no evidence that the large numbers of elderly people are contracting Covid from young students.
Locking down campuses won’t flatten the curve of deaths. But it will split families, cause emotion harm to a generation, unfairly blame the wrong people and achieve absolutely nothing.