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Covidiocy - Why Are We Trashing The Economy Of The World.....
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....when only 20-22% of people even have any symptoms?
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I suspect for the under 30s it's closer to 1%, no wonder they are having their shindigs.
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I suspect for the under 30s it's closer to 1%, no wonder they are having their shindigs.
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It’s not often I agree with TTT, but I do here. A minuscule percentage of this country and the world has been affected physically by C19. Of course every death is very sad but there will be many more unnecessary deaths if we don’t just get on with life.
09:15 Fri 02nd Oct 2020
A think you compleatly missunderstood the article Torra.
It says
Only 22% of people testing positive for coronavirus reported having symptoms on the day of their test, according to the Office for National Statistics.
Its ON THE DAY. It usualy takes a few day's for the symtoms to show. There not saying the rest never get symtoms.
It says
Only 22% of people testing positive for coronavirus reported having symptoms on the day of their test, according to the Office for National Statistics.
Its ON THE DAY. It usualy takes a few day's for the symtoms to show. There not saying the rest never get symtoms.
must be a horrible feeling is you have caught it, thinking older generation here, with underlying conditions already, sweating...wondering, then..the feeling of breathlessness comes upon you.. your helpless, hope for the best, oh ill be fine, must think of the rest of the country...do my bit an all, nah you reach for that phone, and get into hospital, maybe just a flue? and you will be fine.
i suppose if you lose your sense of smell or taste, you may already have a condition with that already?..but to say, what will be will be.
i disagree...maybe older...we don't give in.. why you ask, you already know why.
i suppose if you lose your sense of smell or taste, you may already have a condition with that already?..but to say, what will be will be.
i disagree...maybe older...we don't give in.. why you ask, you already know why.
Well, I'm older and vulnerable (asthma) and I most certainly don't want to catch it - would probably infect even older Mr J2 with heart problems. The big BUT is that for almost 6 months now I have been worrying about the effect on other services (such as NHS and education) and my decision was, and remains, that it is up to the vulnerable to look after themselves with government and societal help. E.g. give us a bit of space outside.
I had started with suspected glaucoma early last year, had preliminary appt. and then everything stopped. All appts. were cancelled. In desperation I rang a few weeks ago and expressed my conviction that my eyesight was worsening rapidly. I was offered an app'tm't. next day (they are not overrun)and it was discovered that I have, indeed, lost vision in a lower quadrant of my left eye and do have glaucoma as well as a rapidly advancing cataract. I hope that now some action will be taken.
In other words, Corona is not as important as all that in the grand scheme of things. Last figures I heard were that 1% of deaths nationally were down to Corona and over 10% to 'flu. This is not even thinking about or adding in the unnecessary cancer and heart deaths. A lady down the road died not long ago from an unsuspected heart condition - she was 56, felt unwell and could only get a telephone appointment with her G.P..
We have to go back to normal as far as possible, whilst protecting the vulnerable as far as possible - if they want protecting, that is. I don't, really, it's my life. Haven't read other answers, but like the BA.
I had started with suspected glaucoma early last year, had preliminary appt. and then everything stopped. All appts. were cancelled. In desperation I rang a few weeks ago and expressed my conviction that my eyesight was worsening rapidly. I was offered an app'tm't. next day (they are not overrun)and it was discovered that I have, indeed, lost vision in a lower quadrant of my left eye and do have glaucoma as well as a rapidly advancing cataract. I hope that now some action will be taken.
In other words, Corona is not as important as all that in the grand scheme of things. Last figures I heard were that 1% of deaths nationally were down to Corona and over 10% to 'flu. This is not even thinking about or adding in the unnecessary cancer and heart deaths. A lady down the road died not long ago from an unsuspected heart condition - she was 56, felt unwell and could only get a telephone appointment with her G.P..
We have to go back to normal as far as possible, whilst protecting the vulnerable as far as possible - if they want protecting, that is. I don't, really, it's my life. Haven't read other answers, but like the BA.
//Its because over a million have died in six months.//
It’s more than nine months actually – the first death was recorded on January 11th. Do you know how many deaths from all causes there were worldwide in that time? To save you looking it up, around 150,000 people die every day. This means that somewhere near 40m people have died since the first Covid death, 39m of them (98%) from causes other than Covid. There is no doubt that deaths are now occurring which result from conditions that have remained untreated because of the way governments (ours in particular) have virtually closed their health services down to non-Covid patients. Are you happy to see those deaths increase? You must be because they will increase considerably if the ridiculous strategy which you seem to support wholeheartedly continues.
//in the flue season peopel cough, sneeze and anyway peopel spray droplets from there mouth when ever the laugh or talk or shout specialy after a few beer's//
Then stay indoors, get all your goods delivered and don’t go to the pub. Then you should be OK and whatever others do won't affect you.
It’s more than nine months actually – the first death was recorded on January 11th. Do you know how many deaths from all causes there were worldwide in that time? To save you looking it up, around 150,000 people die every day. This means that somewhere near 40m people have died since the first Covid death, 39m of them (98%) from causes other than Covid. There is no doubt that deaths are now occurring which result from conditions that have remained untreated because of the way governments (ours in particular) have virtually closed their health services down to non-Covid patients. Are you happy to see those deaths increase? You must be because they will increase considerably if the ridiculous strategy which you seem to support wholeheartedly continues.
//in the flue season peopel cough, sneeze and anyway peopel spray droplets from there mouth when ever the laugh or talk or shout specialy after a few beer's//
Then stay indoors, get all your goods delivered and don’t go to the pub. Then you should be OK and whatever others do won't affect you.
A see- a million dead already and lots more to come is not a problem new judge. Oakie doakie. A wonder at what point youd think it was a real problem. 10 million even a hundred million would be drop in the ocean by your reckning. A know your winding us up. A just hope for your sake you dont get it like trump has as he was cavalier about it to.
//A see- a million dead already and lots more to come is not a problem new judge.//
I didn't say it wasn't a problem. Firstly, I put the one million in context (i.e. about 2% of all deaths). But this question is about how the problem is dealt with. I've explained that large numbers of deaths are already being seen among people who have not been properly treated because of Covid. So let me ask you something (which I've done before and you've quietly ignored it): how many of those deaths are "OK" by you? Because one thing is for sure - they will increase dramatically if the NHS continues to halt or delay treatment for people suffering from other conditions. Covid is not the only disease that is killing people and in fact it's causing a very small percentage of deaths (as I've explained). But it's about the only serious disease that is attracting any attention.
You should also bear in mind that the vast majority of deaths are among elderly people. Elderly people eventually die of something. I know two people who have died of Covid. One was 95 and could have died at any time from any cause. The other died in May. She had serious lung problems and was told late last year (i.e. BC - before Covid) that she would not survive the summer. So among the million deaths you mention, a large proportion would have been in the same category as my two friends. I'm not being callous - I'm trying to inject some realism into what has become an alarmingly paranoid fever which is gripping the nation.
I didn't say it wasn't a problem. Firstly, I put the one million in context (i.e. about 2% of all deaths). But this question is about how the problem is dealt with. I've explained that large numbers of deaths are already being seen among people who have not been properly treated because of Covid. So let me ask you something (which I've done before and you've quietly ignored it): how many of those deaths are "OK" by you? Because one thing is for sure - they will increase dramatically if the NHS continues to halt or delay treatment for people suffering from other conditions. Covid is not the only disease that is killing people and in fact it's causing a very small percentage of deaths (as I've explained). But it's about the only serious disease that is attracting any attention.
You should also bear in mind that the vast majority of deaths are among elderly people. Elderly people eventually die of something. I know two people who have died of Covid. One was 95 and could have died at any time from any cause. The other died in May. She had serious lung problems and was told late last year (i.e. BC - before Covid) that she would not survive the summer. So among the million deaths you mention, a large proportion would have been in the same category as my two friends. I'm not being callous - I'm trying to inject some realism into what has become an alarmingly paranoid fever which is gripping the nation.
A never said are NHS shouldent treat other peopel. But it stands to reason that if corona get's to a level where more are going to hospital there will be an affect on other treatments so lets do what we can to keep corona cases down. What hospitals prioritys are are for them and politicians and not my call tho to me all lives matter
Must admit that personally I am a-political, although I lean towards the left. But TTT and New Judge have summed up perfectly for me as to why all this covid stuff is boolarks.
The disease/virus is real but the response is over the top.
Why dont we all wear face masks, socially distance, pay contactless, etc every winter when Flu is prevalent and is equally a killer of the vulnerable?
The disease/virus is real but the response is over the top.
Why dont we all wear face masks, socially distance, pay contactless, etc every winter when Flu is prevalent and is equally a killer of the vulnerable?
//But it stands to reason that if corona get's to a level where more are going to hospital there will be an affect on other treatments//
But it isn't at that level, is nowhere near it and shows no signs of reaching such a level any time soon. But still the NHS is refusing to resume normal levels of treatment. How long do you propose that situation goes on for? To give you some idea of the difficulties that patients are facing, in a survey last week more than 70% of those questioned said they cannot get an appointment to see their GP face to face. My local hospital has four out of five wards out of use whilst people are waiting for all sorts of treatment. Just what sort of a "heath service" (which costs the taxpayer around £110bn a year) is that?
But it isn't at that level, is nowhere near it and shows no signs of reaching such a level any time soon. But still the NHS is refusing to resume normal levels of treatment. How long do you propose that situation goes on for? To give you some idea of the difficulties that patients are facing, in a survey last week more than 70% of those questioned said they cannot get an appointment to see their GP face to face. My local hospital has four out of five wards out of use whilst people are waiting for all sorts of treatment. Just what sort of a "heath service" (which costs the taxpayer around £110bn a year) is that?
// Nj always the way voice of reason and common sense. If only you were in government.// Dve 50
I dont think this is posted ironically -actually I think NJ is - (in govt) either PHE or trade and industry
did I read someone say - Covid cases havent interfered with other NHS activity
o god - I think NJ is in charge of the NHS !
I dont think this is posted ironically -actually I think NJ is - (in govt) either PHE or trade and industry
did I read someone say - Covid cases havent interfered with other NHS activity
o god - I think NJ is in charge of the NHS !
//does that mean that Covid is not interfering with treatment and IS interfering with treatment schedules - at the same time! ?//
Who knows? And frankly who cares?
All I know is that tens of thousands of people are being denied treatment whilst huge swathes of NHS facilities lie idle. If there is a logical explanation for this I'd be pleased to hear it.
Who knows? And frankly who cares?
All I know is that tens of thousands of people are being denied treatment whilst huge swathes of NHS facilities lie idle. If there is a logical explanation for this I'd be pleased to hear it.
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