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So Are Wales Putting Up A Border Or What?
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How do they propose to stop people entering the country? How will they know what part of the UK they started from? Will we see Heddlu road blocks on all roads into Wales? More Covidiocy.
How do they propose to stop people entering the country? How will they know what part of the UK they started from? Will we see Heddlu road blocks on all roads into Wales? More Covidiocy.
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Isn't all this equvalent to the Pass Laws that used to be in South Africa? Why would anyone want to go to Whails anyway? It's a dump. They lifted all this in the summer so they could get peoples' money. Now they've got it, they don't want you. But they'll want you back next year. Or rather, they'll want your money. Creoso my armpit!
19:00 Wed 14th Oct 2020
Author chill: "I’m generally ambivalent however this really is pure idiocy from Boris. " - err this is not from Boris, it's from the Welsh leader.
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....let’s get it right TTT, it’s from the Welsh leader who has implored Boris to act for several days, all to no avail.
Thus, the First Minister has had to resort to such action.
As for 10CS’s juvenile post, therein lies the attitude that has landed ‘the north’ in its current predicament, the same attitude that saw him attempt to flout government advice at the start of the pandemic in regards to foreign travel and we know how that ended......!
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....let’s get it right TTT, it’s from the Welsh leader who has implored Boris to act for several days, all to no avail.
Thus, the First Minister has had to resort to such action.
As for 10CS’s juvenile post, therein lies the attitude that has landed ‘the north’ in its current predicament, the same attitude that saw him attempt to flout government advice at the start of the pandemic in regards to foreign travel and we know how that ended......!
From the BBC report:
//And the head of the Police Federation in Wales warned the rules could be "unenforceable".
"There will also be plenty of individuals travelling legitimately from areas which are not high risk, and this will only add to the other difficulties officers face when policing the existing regulations," Mark Bleasdale said.//
How surprising. It is blindingly obvious that anybody who wants or needs to go to Wales will do so. No amount of bluster from the Welsh Assembly people will alter that. Couple that with the Police Federation's remarks and it really makes me wonder whether the people coming up with these regulations do so for a genuine reason or whether they just think it will make them look good in the eyes of the electorate. So now we have the leader of a local authority telling citizens of the United Kingdom that they may not move about the country as they wish. That's devolution for you.
//And the head of the Police Federation in Wales warned the rules could be "unenforceable".
"There will also be plenty of individuals travelling legitimately from areas which are not high risk, and this will only add to the other difficulties officers face when policing the existing regulations," Mark Bleasdale said.//
How surprising. It is blindingly obvious that anybody who wants or needs to go to Wales will do so. No amount of bluster from the Welsh Assembly people will alter that. Couple that with the Police Federation's remarks and it really makes me wonder whether the people coming up with these regulations do so for a genuine reason or whether they just think it will make them look good in the eyes of the electorate. So now we have the leader of a local authority telling citizens of the United Kingdom that they may not move about the country as they wish. That's devolution for you.
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//Could the police use their ANPR to identify number plates from high risk areas?//
The best they could do (and I'm not even sure they could do that routinely or quickly) would be to find out the address at which the vehicle was registered. If it's a company, a lease or a hire vehicle that would tell them nothing about the driver; if it was somebody other than the Registered Keeper driving that would leave them equally in the dark. They would have to stop the vehicle and ask the driver for identification.
The best they could do (and I'm not even sure they could do that routinely or quickly) would be to find out the address at which the vehicle was registered. If it's a company, a lease or a hire vehicle that would tell them nothing about the driver; if it was somebody other than the Registered Keeper driving that would leave them equally in the dark. They would have to stop the vehicle and ask the driver for identification.
Agree with ChillDoubt about 10ClarionSt's post at 20.00. There are many really nice areas in Wales and some that don't have much covid at all and he is only trying to keep it that way. I am Welsh but have lived in Devon for many years. During the summer Devon and Cornwall did exactly the same thing by trying to get as much money in from tourists as they could and are now regreting it as the rate has now gone up quite sharply.
theshedman - get your facts correct as to Cornwall please.....we have not spiked - and on the Telegrah map last weekend, we were the other area from Lowestoft and environs that showed a decrease.
As of the 13th: https:/
As of the 13th: https:/
Chilledout , you say My partner lives in West Cheshire, currently in the high tier. I can’t leave, however she is free to pop over to me see me or go.
If shes in high Tier she can visit Wales for now but she isnt suppose to mix with any household's anywhere in the UK including Wales so am not sure its right to say she can come and see you.
All this will be enforced where it can, a read the police areas issuing most fines in summer were in Wales where they used roadblock checks, but realy its a message to say we dont want you from a high risk area or very high risk like Liverpool and if you try you risk been turned back.
If shes in high Tier she can visit Wales for now but she isnt suppose to mix with any household's anywhere in the UK including Wales so am not sure its right to say she can come and see you.
All this will be enforced where it can, a read the police areas issuing most fines in summer were in Wales where they used roadblock checks, but realy its a message to say we dont want you from a high risk area or very high risk like Liverpool and if you try you risk been turned back.
Chilledout , you say My partner lives in West Cheshire, currently in the high tier. I can’t leave, however she is free to pop over to me see me or go.
If shes in high Tier she can visit Wales for now but she isnt suppose to mix with any household's anywhere in the UK including Wales so am not sure its right to say she can come and see you.
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That’s why I chose my words carefully and said she can come and SEE me i.e. quick socially distanced chat in the garden prior to or after doing her shopping etc.
Hell, if she wanted to she wanted to she could have a little jaunt over to Snowdon , then return to England at her leisure, which is what the FM of Wales wanted Boris to prevent but he declined, hence the Senedd have introduced it themselves, despite encouraging fBoJo to do the obvious.
If shes in high Tier she can visit Wales for now but she isnt suppose to mix with any household's anywhere in the UK including Wales so am not sure its right to say she can come and see you.
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That’s why I chose my words carefully and said she can come and SEE me i.e. quick socially distanced chat in the garden prior to or after doing her shopping etc.
Hell, if she wanted to she wanted to she could have a little jaunt over to Snowdon , then return to England at her leisure, which is what the FM of Wales wanted Boris to prevent but he declined, hence the Senedd have introduced it themselves, despite encouraging fBoJo to do the obvious.
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